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Hey everyone,
I'm researching a 3 level ADR vs Hybrid from L3-S1. In the states it would be a hybrid while in Germany it would be ADR. I'm getting opposing recommendations at L5/S1. US doc says a fusion (hybrid) while Germany says ADR. I've been told that a fusion at l5s1 will not affect my movement much at all but could, it instead, offer more stability. What have you learned? Here is my question: DOES IT MATTER? I have severe DD at L5-S1 but if my facets are good, which procedure is really better? At the base of the spine does ADR have more benefit or would the fusion be just as effective? If they are equal, great! I just need a straight answer... Tami
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40 yrs old-(turned 40 and fell apart sound familiar??) Dallas, TX Native 3 level DDD L3-S1 Trouble w/lower back for 18 years from an old dance injury- Back went out in 2003 Managed pain with heavy core training until 2007 rapid digression-stopped work outs 2009 debilitating pain Discogram positive from L3-S1 Currently researching Dr. Bertagnoli and TBI |
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Hello Tami
I had a 3 level Hybrid Charite ADR at L3/L4, L4/L5 and ALIF Fusion at L5/S1. I was very concerned about the possible lack of flexibilty with the L5/S1 fusion but it was explained to me that there is very little movement at that level anyway. Prior to my recent revision fusion I could still touch my toes without too much trouble, once I had recovered of course. That was a fusion without instrumentation but my recent surgery was a revision fusion at L5/S1, but this time with instrumentation, plus a full SIJ fusion so not sure if I'll be still as flexible just yet. Best of luck with your research. Regards Brian
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Microdisc 1998 Chiro 2001-07 Massage 2001 ongoing MRIX4 Lots FJ inj x4 2003-2005 EMG Epidural, SNR Blocks Denervation 5 lumbar levels Discogram Charite ADR L3/L4, L4/L5, ALIF L5/S1 22 April 2008 Tramodol April-Sept 2008 Fentanyl Patches Sept - mid October CAT Scan, FJ Inj, SI Inj, trigger point inj Oct 2008 Oxycom, Oxynorm, Arcoxia, Amitryptiline and Diazapam and now Diclofenic Discogram Revision Fusion with instrumentation L5/S1 and complete uni SIJ Fusion 7th April 2009 |
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We've discussed this so many times in the past four years and the comments are always interesting, perhaps being somewhat inconclusive. There is small (but crucial) movement at L5-S1. Please also search this forum for related topics. If anyone can dig up and post these topic links, I'd be most grateful.
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"Harrison" - info (at) adrsupport.org Fell on my ***winter 2003, Canceled fusion April 6 2004 Reborn June 25th, 2004, L5-S1 ADR Charite in Boston Founder & moderator of ADRSupport - 2004 Founder Arthroplasty Patient Foundation a 501(c)(3) - 2006 Creator & producer, Why Am I Still Sick? - 2012 |
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I've been told the same thing, except in my case I would need three instead of two lumbar discs worked on. I then had a third opinion that said if I had three ADR, I would be worse off than before the surgery, and he was VERY adamant about that. He were not opposed to mulit-level ADR overall, as he wanted to do two levels in my neck.
That scared me, despite all the people I knew who had successful multi-level ADR, and I've decided on the hybrid route. The reputation and good feeling I got from the doctor involved made the decision for me. That wasn't very scientific, but I hope it helped somewhat. Sometimes you just go with your gut feelings.
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C3/4-5/6- Mod. ant., severe posterior bulging w. nerve root compression. Sev. narrowing of spinal canal with cord compression. L4/5/S1- Mod. narrowing, bulging disc, significant hypertrophy of flava lig. Highly allergic to all metals. NEW: 3/16/2010: Successful surgery in Brazil w. Dr. Pimenta; Nuvasive NeoDisc at C5/6, and XLIF & ALIF at L4/5/S1 w. PEEK cages. No rods, screws, plates. Non-metal lumbar ADR not available at present time, so went with fusion. |
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