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I personally know too many people who have had surgery at Stenum hospital and have had serious life altering, life threatening outcomes to botched surgeries. So many of them still live in disabling pain.
My question to all of you is this, can anyone think of a way to permanently stop Stenum, specifically Drs. Ritter-Lang and Zechel from performing surgery? I have tried the lawsuit route and it was futile. Does anyone know of a board of medicine in Germany, a complaint board? Any ideas that could prevent further horrible outcomes? Thank you, thank you! Carmen Montgomery L4-S1 ADR, 8/04 Stenum L5 Vertebral Tilt, new pain 9/04 L4-S1 Dynesys, 11/04 Stenum Long recovery, left with burning feet April '06, recommendation for removal of both Charites and anterior fusion. 7-8/06 Seeing Dr. Peloza for tests in preparation for anterior revision 9/06 No decision about surgery, no communication from Dr. Peloza's office. |
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Carmen,
Thanks for asking this question. The outcomes of so many patients under Ritter-Lang’s knife are just so unfortunate – as you personally know. For this reason and others, it should come as no surprise that the FAQ on Stenum is the most visited of all FAQs (unfortunately): http://adrsupport.org/eve/forums/a/t...1/m/9281000181 I would like to know which German agencies should be contacted regarding complaints from patients and/or the patient community. Carmen, to your point, does anyone know? In the meantime, I’ll research the German process for filing medical complaints. Patients (seven, eight?) on this forum have suffered from improper placement of artificial disc devices, lacerated arteries and life-threatening complications relating specifically to one doctor’s (Ritter-Lang’s) incompetence. And these are just the patients who are kind enough to post – how many more are there?! As well, people can complain to Jim Rider, the U.S. salesperson for Stenum. He is paid money for the patients he refers to Stenum – so I encourage people to call and complain at the number he lists on the marketing website: Jim Rider, Stenum's US Spokesperson and an ADR patient, at 866-544-8252. Please Jim, get a conscience and stop the marketing, or assure the patient community that you care. As well, I invite you to post here and explain your side of the story. (I’ll email him this post today, to ensure his knowledge of this post.) It is notable that Stenum is no longer implanting the Charite artificial disc. I don’t know the exact reasons why this occurred; they seem to offering the Maverick only. I can only imagine the list of reasons why! For people here that have had negative experiences from Stenum, I encourage you to band together for support. Yes, one has to move on, but your situations are extraordinary difficult and you can help each other immensely. Many thanks for you, Carmen, Willy, Rob and many others that have shared the hellish experiences from Stenum. Friends of the ADRSupport community: how can we help them? How can we properly alert the German medical authorities?
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"Harrison" - info (at) adrsupport.org Fell on my ***winter 2003, Canceled fusion April 6 2004 Reborn June 25th, 2004, L5-S1 ADR Charite in Boston Founder & moderator of ADRSupport - 2004 Founder Arthroplasty Patient Foundation a 501(c)(3) - 2006 Creator & producer, Why Am I Still Sick? - 2012 |
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From my short web search it appears that the doctor's are regulated by each State there. Check this out: www.aerztekammer-berlin.de
It looks like this is the physician's medical association in Berlin. They might be able to direct you to the German Medical Board. Also, who is the patient laison for Dr. Bertagnoli who moved from the US to Germany. I can't remember her name but maybe she can assist you with finding the Medical Board.
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7/05 EMG/Nerve Conduction Tests 8/04 Disqualified from ADR clinical trial due to severe osteoporosis -- getting treatment 3/04 updated MRI 11/2000 IDET L 3/4, L4/5 1/2000 Discogram numerous epidural injections physical therapy |
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To all,
You were reading my mind. As responsible human beings we owe it to everyone that considers Stenum that they know that Dr. Ritter Lang does not seem to be a very competent surgeon. Many of us have had our lives truned upside down by this man. We feel strongly that we prevent others from doing the same. I lend my full support to any initiative that takes place. Please keep me informed. As Jim Rider of getadr.com says "stop the fusions". I say "stop Ritter Lang from ruining any more lives".
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Rob Wilson 2/06 L4/5, L5/S1 ADR Stenum Hospital - Iliac vein cut w/ occlusion of iliac vein and hematoma 12/06 thru 8/07 Laser Spine Institute - 6 surgeries on L3/4 both sides, L4/5 both sides, L5/S1 both sides 4/08 Bonati Institute - redo of L5/S1 right 8/08 Bonati Institute - redo of L5/S1 left 12/08 Bonati Institute - redo of L4/5 right and left 9/09 Piriformis surgery to remove piriformis muscle causing sciatica |
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For what it's worth, I did not get any replies from Stenum or their U.S. marketing agent, Jim Rider. I'll continue to pursue this.
Stenum contacts are here: http://www.stenumhospital.com/about/rider.asp
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"Harrison" - info (at) adrsupport.org Fell on my ***winter 2003, Canceled fusion April 6 2004 Reborn June 25th, 2004, L5-S1 ADR Charite in Boston Founder & moderator of ADRSupport - 2004 Founder Arthroplasty Patient Foundation a 501(c)(3) - 2006 Creator & producer, Why Am I Still Sick? - 2012 |
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I wonder if a German malpractice attorney could help. Of course if you were worth millions, and international law attorney.
Wonder why they are promoting the Maverick? I can't see why vs. Pro-Disc, etc. ans
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Severe, extensive DDD, considered inoperable by Dr. Regan, Lauressen, & some guy at UCLA. Severe foraminal stenosis (guess they can't operate!) and some spinal cord compression that Lauryssen would fix if gets outta hand. |
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its the only one that the mfg will let them install.
mfg pulled the charite from them chuck
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ddd 1990 2003 mri,xrays,shots,emg 2004 discogram ouch pos l4 l5 facet block neg lost all appeals BCBS 5 months of that 3 surgeons later surgery with dr. bertagnoli aug 2nd 2006 in Bogen Germany Successfully ProDisc-L L-4 L-5 |
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Probably just a matter of time before the Maverick disc will also get pulled from Stenum.
One of the members here had ADR done there with the Maverick disc and is having problems to. I totally agree with Carmon on Stenum. JF110 |
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They are now calling every one who has ever contacted them. They called me twice last month . I told them if and when I have ADR's it will NOT be with them . She said a couple of disgrunted patients are posting false statements . I told them , " you know better than that , there are many disgrunted patients - too many for me and others to even consider Stenum ", she then hung up on me.
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2005- large protruded disc and severe lumbar stenosis , 3level ADR/fusion candidate L3/4, L4/5 and L5/S1 Disectomy at L3-4 and L4-5 in 2002 Repeat at L3-4 in 2003 Also have Severe stenosis at C5/6 and C6/7- Cervical fusion recommended also. |
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I spoke with some of my german friends and it's unanimous. Patients in Germany have almost no chance of taking a doctor to court for a botched operation. The laws are too relaxed and to be successful you have to prove maltreatment. Maltreatment would be botching an operation and leaving you in agony without any responsibility of trying to get you back on your feet again.
Cases I have seen posted here do no show that. They show that the surgery was botched due to a poor internalist, but they at least sent the victim to a real hospital for proper surgery to fix what they screwed up. Some addresses in Germany to pursue Maltreatment (in german); http://www.mdr.de/doku/358918-hintergrund-682390.html
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*********************** 1/2006 DDD L5/S1 Prodisc St. Mary's 12/2006 not diagnosed properly pre-op and now have DDD L4/L5, facet calcification L5-S1/L4-L5, mild scoliosis and left knee pain. DDD: C3 through C6 |
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