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Old 07-03-2008, 04:34 PM
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Many moons ago, I posted a FAQ on smoking:

Should I stop smoking?
http://adrsupport.org/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/7011036081/m/6...671000181#6671000181

Actually, it’s more of a non-FAQ, as it does not come up that often. I was just curious – what techniques have helped patients keep the habit?
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Old 07-03-2008, 07:03 PM
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Originally posted by Harrison:
Many moons ago, I posted a FAQ on smoking:

Should I stop smoking?
http://adrsupport.org/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/7011036081/m/6...671000181#6671000181

Actually, it’s more of a non-FAQ, as it does what techniques havnot come up that often. I was just curious – e helped patients keep the habit?
Keep the habit?
I assume you meant kick the habit? LOL
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Old 07-03-2008, 08:58 PM
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Chantix has shown promising results in aiding the stoppage of nicotine dependence though it has also been linked to horrible side effects including psychosis and bad dreams. I would be cautious. Wellbutrin, or Zyban as it is called for the stop smoking aid, has also proved promising in some people.

It is best to stop smoking prior to a major surgery to aid in the healing process. Many surgeons are refusing to operate anymore unless patients give up smoking.

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Old 07-04-2008, 05:00 AM
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Terry,

You are correct on that. Not only does my surgeon "demand" that a patient be smoke free, I've also heard him tell patients that if they do not lose excessive weight, he will not do surgery. I've actually heard him tell a hip replacement candidate, "You’ve got another 30 to lose. Come back in a couple months and we will talk."

I guess with all the "sue" happy people around, I can't blame them.
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Old 07-04-2008, 06:56 PM
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Thanks you all. How about the patches, hypnosis, other fancy tricks!? That said, this is for an 80 year-old, so easy is better.

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Old 07-05-2008, 12:06 AM
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Patches work fairly well, so does the replacement gum. I would not put an aged man on Chantix. Even the Zyban might be stretching it. Hypnosis works on some though I am not sure it is all that effective for aged folks as they are a little more rigid in their ways and not very susceptible to suggestion.

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Old 07-09-2008, 06:25 AM
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Hi Harrison,
I can't think of an easy way to quit. I agree that Dr's run from smokers and I knew I needed help that I didn't want something stupid to stand in my way. I think my Dr. still sniffs me.

Just about the only sure thing is you are guaranteed to fail.

First I tried cold turkey and there was a telephone help line (maybe Red Cross) I called to get the message of the hour.
Then I tried brushing my teeth all day. The Ex. said I was smoking and drinking away our vacation home. Then the gum came out and I tried that. Then I tried changing all my habits, exercise, quit alcohol and threw out all tobacco, matches and ash trays. I failed for 17 yrs.

Next was a mix of all the above and I have 10 yrs. 7 mos and 16 days on earth smoke free.

Looking back, the only failure is not to try.
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Old 07-09-2008, 08:15 AM
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JL, ya give me hope !!!

It's a nasty nasty habit that is very tough to quit.

Every time I fail it takes me a while to climb back on the horse and try again... but I keep trying.

Wellbutrin worked the BEST for me, but I had to stop it due to insurance coverage changes and the urges came rushing back immediately after stopping the meds. I've tried the patches , gum and cold turkey and so far nothing has come close to the Wellbutrin in easing the cravings. However a second go with Wellbutrin had NO effect what so ever.

I've talked with my docs about Chantix but with being on Nortriptylyn and Lyrica they don't want me on it.. so I'm gearing up for another gum session soon.

Harrison, both Wellbutrin and Chantix have some pretty significant side effects, especially on mood swings and mental outlooks. I also find the patches really affect your sleep habits. Just an fyi from someone who keeps trying.
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Old 07-09-2008, 12:02 PM
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Thanks everyone. It looks like a tough battle. This being America, with Big Pharma so capable, I was thinking everything would be so easy with just one pill a day!?

Sarcasm implied.
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Old 07-10-2008, 12:28 AM
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Just remember, even the best product for smoking cessation is only about 40% successful according to the literature I've read .

The clinical trials on Chantix, each member had one on one counseling therapy available through out the trials. And with the patch and gum, the problems I have read about claim folks quit smoking only to become addicted to the patch or gum. Just a different mode of delivery for the nicotine, albeit a healthier one no doubt.
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