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Old 01-23-2013, 09:57 AM
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Lil,

She is concerned that if something goes wrong the doctors here that we all think are crazy wont be able to do anything to help or we would have to pay to go back on our dollar for a repair. We can afford it once now but two trips in short succession would be impossible for us. I understand her fears but my fear of pain forever overtakes that fear for me.
Clavel has revision insurance that you can buy to help with those fears.
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1995 - Weightlifting injury
1997 - Hip Injury
2009 - Trampoline injury (just bounced down on my butt)
2009-2011 Physiotherapy and medication, progress but no lasting pain relief
2010 - X-Ray DDD L5-S1, L4-L5, L4-L3
2010 - MRI Herniation L5-S1, Bulges L4-L5, L4-L3
2011 - Epidurals - No relief
2012 - Facet Injections - No relief
2012 - Discogram TBI - positive L3-S1

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Old 01-23-2013, 10:34 AM
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Icanraceit,
I am also in the process of deciding what and how to take care of my back. I am for the most part a fairly fearless person and have to admit that some of the scenarios you can come with are pretty scary. Much like you, my wife has a lot more fear of going to Europe than I do, but after she came to one of the local consults with me and started reading thru the forum she told me that she is beginning to see that the possibility of a far superior outcome may override the fear of going overseas. Don't let comfort level of our perceived norm become a fear. The clincher for us both feeling comfortable was the great lunch we had with JeffR last Sunday - He is a normal guy, doing well, and ran into many of the same obstacles in decision making that we are
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Old 01-23-2013, 12:49 PM
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Jeff,

What is this revision insurance you spoke about and what is the cost. I never was informed about this?
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Old 01-23-2013, 01:45 PM
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Jeff,

What is this revision insurance you spoke about and what is the cost. I never was informed about this?
There seems to be some confusion about this. I signed for it when I was checked in and was told it was for 2 years to cover revisions, there was no special quote for it. The situation has changed recently however as patients now are being told that the insurance is only for 1 year and it a couple thousand dollars I think. If you got it in November you should have the same deal as me, you can contact Yolanda to get clarification.
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Lifelong history of back issues from a young age, spasms etc.
1995 - Weightlifting injury
1997 - Hip Injury
2009 - Trampoline injury (just bounced down on my butt)
2009-2011 Physiotherapy and medication, progress but no lasting pain relief
2010 - X-Ray DDD L5-S1, L4-L5, L4-L3
2010 - MRI Herniation L5-S1, Bulges L4-L5, L4-L3
2011 - Epidurals - No relief
2012 - Facet Injections - No relief
2012 - Discogram TBI - positive L3-S1

L3-S1 ADR M6-L w Clavel 11/28/2012
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Old 01-23-2013, 10:07 PM
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I can totally understand that. But be assured that from what I've read Dr. Clavel is who fixes the ones that go wrong! But I totally get the fear. I keep thinking "What the hell am I about to do?!" But 20 years of low back pain and 10 or cervical pain? I'm just done. I know recovery is going to be hell, but it will be worth living the rest of my life without back pain. I'm 35. The rest of my life is a long damn time.
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Before surgery: severe spinal stenosis C5/C6 (cord "flattened" per stateside doc), + for Hoffman's & Babinsky's.
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Old 01-24-2013, 01:51 AM
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Does anyone know what Dr. Clavel's advertised success rate or at least what he tells his patients prior to surgery? Thanks and God Bless!!
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05 small amounts of numbness in low back
10/06 fall with severe twist and the end of painless life
07-11 PT, Chiro, PT, and more Chiro with some relief
4/11 pain came on and has settled in for good
facet blocks
7 injections
DRX 9000 traction (no help)
Fentanyl patch and 15 mg oxycodon for breakthrough
4 MRI Bulging L5S1 and DDD
3 Dr's suggest ADR
1/13 discogram 7-8/10 pain
2/28/13 ADR scheduled xxxx canceled
3/21/13 L5S1 ADR M6 with Dr. Clavel who else?:-)
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Old 01-24-2013, 07:01 AM
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Does anyone know what Dr. Clavel's advertised success rate or at least what he tells his patients prior to surgery? Thanks and God Bless!!
He told me he's never done a revision.
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Lifelong history of back issues from a young age, spasms etc.
1995 - Weightlifting injury
1997 - Hip Injury
2009 - Trampoline injury (just bounced down on my butt)
2009-2011 Physiotherapy and medication, progress but no lasting pain relief
2010 - X-Ray DDD L5-S1, L4-L5, L4-L3
2010 - MRI Herniation L5-S1, Bulges L4-L5, L4-L3
2011 - Epidurals - No relief
2012 - Facet Injections - No relief
2012 - Discogram TBI - positive L3-S1

L3-S1 ADR M6-L w Clavel 11/28/2012
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Old 01-24-2013, 11:34 AM
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I have a phone conversation with Yolanda in a few minutes.. I am hoping to get some of my questions answered. I will let you guys know the outcome. Thanks again for all of your help and god bless!
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05 small amounts of numbness in low back
10/06 fall with severe twist and the end of painless life
07-11 PT, Chiro, PT, and more Chiro with some relief
4/11 pain came on and has settled in for good
facet blocks
7 injections
DRX 9000 traction (no help)
Fentanyl patch and 15 mg oxycodon for breakthrough
4 MRI Bulging L5S1 and DDD
3 Dr's suggest ADR
1/13 discogram 7-8/10 pain
2/28/13 ADR scheduled xxxx canceled
3/21/13 L5S1 ADR M6 with Dr. Clavel who else?:-)
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Old 01-24-2013, 11:38 AM
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Good luck! Tell her Jeff from Canada says hello.
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Lifelong history of back issues from a young age, spasms etc.
1995 - Weightlifting injury
1997 - Hip Injury
2009 - Trampoline injury (just bounced down on my butt)
2009-2011 Physiotherapy and medication, progress but no lasting pain relief
2010 - X-Ray DDD L5-S1, L4-L5, L4-L3
2010 - MRI Herniation L5-S1, Bulges L4-L5, L4-L3
2011 - Epidurals - No relief
2012 - Facet Injections - No relief
2012 - Discogram TBI - positive L3-S1

L3-S1 ADR M6-L w Clavel 11/28/2012
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