Pelvic/Groin Pain
 

Hi,

Anyone out there have/had genital/groin pain from spine issues. I am considering ADR to help get my life back but I really need to talk to more people about this before I make a final decision. So far I have had no luck in making many connections. Some ladies to chat with would be helpful too. I know hat that this is a very sensitive subject but you are welcome to message me anytime or reach me via email or skype at ginapriolo4 (at) msn.com

Thanks,
Gina

Phatbird, sorry i'm not a female, but i just developed some groin pain a few days ago. it stops short of my business, yet so close it is scary. have an MRI scheduled for next week. the pain is also in my right thigh emanating from the center of my back, along the top of my pelvis. i can stand or walk for about 3-15 minutes and it is excruciating. i have sent my cervical and thoracic MRI to DR. Clavel in Spain, as soon as i get these fresh lumbar MRI i will send those as well. also as soon as that MRI is done, Dr. Bierstedt in Germany will get the whole thing as well. the Swiss spine registry has done a lot of testing of the AxioMed Freedom lumbar disc as well. against all of the hard ball disc used in Europe, with better outcomes. there is also the Premia Tops facet replacement if that is an option and the SK M-6 adr. Dr. Bierstedt has done both M-6 and the Premia, good luck!

Issues
 

Hello Bird,

Yes it can, at least it did with me, at the time I was taking a diuretic for blood pressure (now another type) and brought this up with the doc, they asked if I had any incontinence issues, it was more of loss of control.

Seems after surgery, I have never had that issue, it was pretty intermittent, but the Pudendal nerve covers a lot of area.

Here too, Bierstedt, did mine, the M6, I was supposed to have two, but it was too dangerous to do the lower, the L51, so they offered a fusion, from the back.

If this was the USA, I probably would have had to schedule another surgery.

Cannot thank them enough.

Any way you slice it, it will take a few years to work through all this...,
In case no one mentions it, do not lift anything more than a gallon of milk for 90 days, it takes a long time for the bone to grow onto the surfaces of the disc.

Good Luck, and the sooner you do this, the sooner it is over, and the less damage there is.

All the best.

Groin pain
 

Hi Jerry,
I have a new groin pain. It is in the crease of my left leg. It is sometimes higher just below the hip & sometimes lower towards my testes. I had an ultrasound which eliminated an inguenal hernia. Then had a CT scan which eliminated kidney stones and other urological problems. My sports medicine doc identified several groin muscles including abductors which are weak and painful. I was given corticosteroids to reduce the inflammation. However, I think it can be a lumbar nerve that innervates these muscles.

My research identified the obturator nerve which starts from L2 - L4 and goes to the groin. I noticed that in addition to your PLIF and M6 ADR, you had a problem with disc herniation at a higher level. Can you shine any light on groin pain and what the originating cause was? Thanks.

Pain
 

Hello,
Optimistic
The upper level was the lateral femoral nerve in the outer right thigh, this did not have anything to do with the groin.

I never had groin pain, just a little incontinence, once I lost control, very embarrassing.
I researched this to the pudendal nerve, would have to look up the obturator.

The Horsetail from the L1 down has a LOT of nerves and the L51 has a lot of incontinence issues.


You did just as I did, and found the probable cause, this resolved with surgery, lifting the disc height, and this relieved the pressure on the nerves at those levels.
Not sure why the obturator would be causing you pain after the M6. ( I will look this up)
I have no medical proof, other then what I just told you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obturator_nerve
Take a look and see if you can right click and open these and maybe you can figure out where the pain is originating from, this is the best place to start.


Hope this helps.:insane:

I have had lots of groin issues. I'd strongly suggest that you make sure your hip is checked out as it can refer into the groin and pelvis. In my case, intermittent tingling has been attributed to a possible labral tear. I also had genital issues caused by surgery at l5-s1, but they resolved (burning, urination problems) and I talked a bit about that in my post op post.
good luck

My L3 central stenosis decompression took care of my groin pains as well as all the muscle spasms in the legs.

Groin/Hip Resolution
 

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Here is an update on my groin pain. After the ultrasound and CT scan, I had an x-ray of the hip and a lumbar MRI. I was examined by both a sports medicine specialist as well as an orthopedic surgeon. They assessed my hip and ruled it out as the cause. They both recommended PT (Physical Therapy). I had my ADR surgeon (Dr. Bierstedt) examine the MRI. Both he and my local radiologist did not find any problem in the MRI (in general or specific to my groin).

I then started PT and they were able to replicate the pain & sensitivities. They identified soft tissue - specifically my hip flexor, possibly gracilis. The pelvic floor muscles were weak. As a result of time (~6 weeks), some strong prescription anti-inflamatories as well as beginning PT, my symptoms started to dissipate.

Another pain medicine doctor told me that in addition to having a low-level constant pain, I could have experienced strong, debilitating pain (like a charlyhorse) as a result of muscle spasms that were the result of the body trying to protect itself. As it were these latter episodes that caused me to seek medical attention in the first place, it made sense that my pain was soft tissue alone (i.e. muscle, tendon, ligament).

I have now had ~3 weeks of PT and almost 2 months out from when the symptoms began. In addition to feeling 95% better, I am pleased that all the docs together gave me a "clean bill of health". My surgeon confirmed that I am doing well >3 years after surgery. I have no urological issues, no kidney stones, no hernia and my hip is healthy. Good news all around.