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JudyW 04-30-2008 07:48 PM

I began taking these supplements about a month ago hoping they would help with an residual joint problems. Does anyone know if they might have a negative effect on my ADR?

Harrison 04-30-2008 08:30 PM

Judy, it may not -- but the quality, exact composition and dose are critical. What joint problems are you having?

JudyW 05-01-2008 06:47 PM

I think I have SI joint issues and I'm guessing my facet joints could always use help as well as my L5-S1 area. The supplement I take has 1500mg Glucosamine sulfate, 1200 mg Chondroitin sulfate, and 1200mg MSM.

annapurna 05-01-2008 08:35 PM

The supplement is unlikely to hurt and glucosamine has been shown to help in blind studies but there's no way to predict how much it would help. It's like measuring how much vitamins help. There's really no way to say if they really do make you feel better than by trying them and seeing if anythign really improves.

Cirobi 05-02-2008 08:00 AM

I don't know anything about how it may effect ADR, but I do know that the mother of a close friend of mine swears by that exact combo of Glucosamine and Chondroitin as well as some other vitamin but I'm not sure if it was MSM or not. When I was initially told I had mild arthritis in my lumbar spine and noticed the prescription anti-inflammatory wasn't helping, I turned to the over-the-counter Glucosamine/Chondroitin mixture. At the time I had pretty high hopes of it helping over time. I took it as regularly as possible (would forget a dose or so on weekends sometimes) for about 6 months. Of course, now I know why it and prescriptions weren't working... had a completely different problem going on back there!

I'm not sure how long it takes for those to kick in, but I certainly hope they help you out. in the long run. http://adrsupport.org/groupee_common...icon_smile.gif

ZorroSF 05-02-2008 11:50 AM

changing your diet will be far more effective than taking those pills.

start steaming wild salmon, or change your diet to high quality fish oils.

Arctic Krill Oil........................

This will be far more effective than taking your combo which has no proven results.


In fact an anti-inflammatory (cox inhibitor)will probably give you more relief than an assortment of pills unless you have an ulcer.

just remember not to take vitamin A as a supplement. Plenty of studies have shown that after taking it for years it can cause brittle bones.

BTW send me a PM. I live in LA too and can tell you how I have started to maintain my back after ADR. I too have arthritis in my spine post-op.

annapurna 05-02-2008 07:29 PM

Anti-inflammatories lead to cartilage damage taken long-term, even the COX2 inhibitors. Glucosamine has been tested and shown to have a beneficial effect, as well as having an anti-inflammatory effect without the damage that NSAIDs are known to cause.

Terry 05-03-2008 07:23 AM

I have been taking Glucosamine for years and swear by it's help. I had pain in the joints of my fingers which clearly indicated arthritis. I started taking the supplement several years ago and, within weeks, the pain in my hands went away. I tried to take myself off of it several months later as I did not like the price and the pain returned in my hands. I have been taking it ever since. My good friend Dr. Wakulat, who used to be my medical director, swore by the research and benefits of the drug. He is a graduate of the University of Michigan's Medical School and had an illustrious career as an internal medicine doctor for over thirty years at Northern Michigan Hospital and Burns Clinic so his word is gospel to me.

I am always skeptical about stuff so, to have me believe in it means, it works.

Terry Newton

ZorroSF 05-05-2008 07:52 PM

you say it works but show no proof.


http://www.nih.gov/news/pr/feb2006/nccam-22.htm


it's marginally better than a placebo

annapurna 05-06-2008 04:54 PM

The NIH Glucosamine/Chondroitin Arthritis Intervention Trial (GAIT) showed some benefit from a mix of glucosamine and chondrotin sulfate for patients with moderate to severe ostearthritis. At this point, given the risks inherent with continued use of NSAIDs, I'd still stay it's worthwhile to pursue this alternative. I'm not saying that it should be considered a wonder drug but it's a worthwhile altenative that may help. On the other hand, I'd be willing to point out the benefits of Sherlock Holmes' advice for using bee stings to help deal with untreatable rheumatic arthritis. If you're running out of options, it's always worthwhile to look options, especially those with few known side effects.


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