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pelada 11-27-2012 10:07 PM

M6L doctor updates
 
Anyone had surgery with Dr. Dare?

Im very interested to know how you are doing. Im a candidate and looking for courage to cross over.

Also anyone been to see Dr. Clavel? Im looking to get in contact and get feeling on going to him.


M6 double disk lumbar.

anyone else had this done, where and how are you feeling.

Lillyth 11-28-2012 01:25 AM

I haven't had my surgery yet, but I do know that I have not seen a single bad review of Dr. Clavel.

JeffR 11-29-2012 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pelada (Post 96484)
Anyone had surgery with Dr. Dare?

Im very interested to know how you are doing. Im a candidate and looking for courage to cross over.

Also anyone been to see Dr. Clavel? Im looking to get in contact and get feeling on going to him.


M6 double disk lumbar.

anyone else had this done, where and how are you feeling.

consulted with Dare but felt he didnt have enough mutli-level experience which is what i needed. Just had a three level with Clavel and am very pleased thus far.

Lillyth 11-29-2012 08:31 PM

Hmmm... Interesting. I just sent my films to Dr. Dare. I will be curious to see what he says about my case, since it is multi-level.

Claudia K. 12-30-2012 01:13 PM

Hi pelada,
I'm really sorry you have to start over. I'm shure you will make the right decision for you. I just came back from Germany, I had disc replacement at L5-S1 by Dr. Bierstedt. He uses a variety of disc and also the M6. He is an experienced surgeon.
Just wanted to give you his information so you can contact him
email dr.bierstedt@onz-online.de
website German Spine Specialists – M6 ADR Artificial Disk Replacement - Stop spine pain now, Lumbar Cervical Spine Surgery

Hope you find help soon!
Claudia

Harrison 12-30-2012 03:28 PM

Pelada, I am glad that some patients have had good luck with Stenum (the link that Claudia provided) but I have many, many concerns about their treatments, litany of horror stories from patients, and of course the hijacking of this very web site.

Pls see this FAQ:

http://www.adrsupport.org/forums/f49...utation-10308/

trkdoc714 12-30-2012 07:19 PM

Bio on Dr. Bierstedt
 
Although I had an extremely good result from the 2 level ADR at Stenum and will recommend them to anyone that asks, it appears Harrison is mistakenly connecting Dr. Bierstedt with Stenum. Below is his biography.

"Hr. Dr. Thomas Bierstedt studied medicine from 1991 to 1998 at the Westphalian Wilhelms University in Münster and received the license to practise medicine in May, 1999. His doctorate to the MD was achieved in October, 1999. He began his neurosurgical education in the Knappschaft hospital under Mr. Prof. H. Kretschemer and continued this from the middle of 1999 in Bodelschwinghschen hospital of Bielefeld with Mr. Prof. F.Oppel. Here Dr. Bierstedt worked untill September, 2004 as a resident.

He graduated as neurosurgeon in 2005 in Bielefeld.

From December, 2005 to March, 2008 Dr. Bierstedt worked as a senior physician for neurosurgery and leading senior physician for spinal surgery in the Knappschaft hospital of Recklinghausen under Mr. PD Dr . M.J.A. Puchner.

From 2005 to 2008 Dr. Bierstedt in the Knappschaft hospital of Recklinghausen established a national center for spinal surgery with a special main focus of mobility retaining interventions (artificial disk replacement) as well as spinal trauma.

From 2008 to 2010 the additional education manual therapy and chiropractic."

Good luck with your decision. It should be made with fact and not innuendo and one sided stories.

Bob

Claudia K. 12-30-2012 07:35 PM

Hi Harrison,
Sternum? Now I'm confused. Dr.Bierstedt is in Recklinghausen and operates in Hattingen. I have read some of those horror stories about Dr.Ritter Lang too. I know that Malte Peterson ( the person who organizes the trip) worked previously for Dr. Ritter Lang and left, because of reasons explained here in the forum but he is not the surgeon! Apparently I'm missing something?! Dr. Bierstedt is a specialist in disc replacement, he uses a variety of disc and he only has two or three surgeries on one day.

Harrison 12-30-2012 09:15 PM

I would like to better understand the past & present legal & financial situation between this clinic and Stenum, see:

German Spine Specialists – M6 ADR Artificial Disk Replacement - Stop spine pain now, Lumbar Cervical Spine Surgery

I am unclear as to how "clean" their break-up was and when it was. E.g., see this extraordinary email from Petersen to a spine patient dated 2009:

Email from Malte Petersen - Stenum Nightmare

At some point in the recent past, they removed his profile, though the URL still has his name:

www stenumhospital.com/about/petersen.asp

What is Stenum Hospital's Reputation? - International Department, ADR Surgery, Artificial disc replacement surgery at Stenum Hospital Germany, lumbar disc replacement, cervical disc replacement, previous fusion ok, multi level, cervical ADR, leading

Everything about that institution has brought nothing but problems to this community, non-profit and many patients. Anyway, glad that people like Bob can come out of the woodwork to correct me and defend the Stenum gang -- how flattering indeed.

A reminder that I was the one that learned (from others in this community) that Dr. Clavel was working for Stenum. I don't have the time now to dig up the posts, but I don't think anyone really cares as much as I do. I had to use what few funds I have to pay for a lawyer to sue Stenum. Their tenacles are long, devious and usually don't get noticed -- few people are watching them and their mishaps. That's why I am grateful for patients for reporting their outcomes.

Jmbeam 12-30-2012 11:16 PM

Im a bit confused. Before I chose Dr Clavel I asked if he was associated with Stenum Hospital. The answer was NO. Are you saying that is not true?


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