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Old 03-24-2013, 03:24 PM
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[QUOTE=Running11;98856]I can race it,

Yes, Lily is wonderful ! I met her becuase she leaves nearby me in the Bay area. What do you mean she was your red flag? Does that mean you weren't accepting of your injuries?

I am having so a hard time with my husband. He wants me to get a fusion becuase he is afraid if we somehow come up with the money for ADR , i will have complications. We have been told by one of my spinal doctors that if i go oversees my insurance won't even pay for a painkiller for my neck. He said if we go with ADR oversees we might as well sell our house and that he would never let his wife go oversees for surgery! No wonder why my hubby is so against it. He's afraid its too much of a risk. I think ADR is the only solution.
My husband is encouraging me to get a bi-level fusion in June. Any thoughts ?You said you went through tthe same issues. How did you come to agreement?[/QUOTE

First Run, may I ask your age and how long you have been in pain for?.

I was sold on the pro disc or the fusion myself for the exact same reasons your husband is. I was even singing about it here on this website. Lillyth made one comment that was the red flag I needed. She said she would not put the pro disc in her body because the m6 was a far superior implant. She also had other info that made me stop and really think about what I was about to do.

As far as your husband goes I completely understand, it is like I am reading what I wrote about my wife. I asked my wife to also do some research and come up with her own solution. It took her a very short period of time to realize that the best solution for long term results was to have the spinal kinetics M6 installed. Just a bit of info for you. Most fusions end with adjacent disc disease and according to the stats I read it happens at more than a 3% per year per level fused. So if I read it right, if you had a two level fusion in ten years you have about a 60% chance of another surgery. Plus keep in mind if the fusion doesn't work that's it. If the m6 doesn't work Clavel will take it out and fuse it.

It breaks my heart to hear there is an American doctor out there saying these things to someone who is already scared of the outcome of surgery.. To hear that he is telling you that you might as well sell your house, and you insurance won't cover your meds.. That is just simply BULL SH#T. Also keep in mind once surgery is over Dr. Clavel gives you all the meds you need to get you home.

As for complications.... Anything is possible but there is insurance that Dr. Clavel offers for about $1300 that covers any problems with the installation, the device, or the doctors technique.

I ask you to challenge your husband to look online for as many negative outcomes with Dr. Clavel and the M6 VS. fusions done by American doctors. There are other doctors in Europe that do the ADR surgery with the m6 other than Clavel but he made me feel the best and on this site I could not find one negative thing said about him or his surgery.

As for coming to my final agreement With my wife, it was quite an ordeal. The meds made me very aggressive and emotional at times and I had reached my threshold for the situation/my condition. I have a new little girl and I was not going to sacrifice the life my daughter deserved because of my back pain. Especially when the solution was available.

A few final comments on your doctor that has scared your husband to death.. 1 he makes money operating so he is going to say whatever it takes to keep his $100-150k surgery from turning into a $35-50k ADR in Spain. I would then tell that guy to go pound sand and find me a new doctor. There are doctors everywhere that would not do that to you.

Lastly there has been over 10000 m6's installed with no lawsuits to mention in regards to the implant. (that I can find). Trust me I have looked

I hope I have helped and if you need to talk you can private message me and we can exchange info.

I wish you the best of luck and I know it is a ton of money. Worst case send Yolanda your MRIs and X-rays and let Clavel tell you what he thinks. If you want you can then speak to him via Skype along with your husband to answer any questions you may have.

GOD BLESS YOU, pray hard and do your research and eventually things will work themselves out. I pray you are pain free soon!!
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05 small amounts of numbness in low back
10/06 fall with severe twist and the end of painless life
07-11 PT, Chiro, PT, and more Chiro with some relief
4/11 pain came on and has settled in for good
facet blocks
7 injections
DRX 9000 traction (no help)
Fentanyl patch and 15 mg oxycodon for breakthrough
4 MRI Bulging L5S1 and DDD
3 Dr's suggest ADR
1/13 discogram 7-8/10 pain
2/28/13 ADR scheduled xxxx canceled
3/21/13 L5S1 ADR M6 with Dr. Clavel who else?:-)
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