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Old 07-04-2005, 07:03 PM
Patrick Patrick is offline
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I don't know what my BMI is but I am sure it is way too high. The longer this goes on, the bigger I seem to be getting. Could my doctor deny surgery because of this?
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Old 07-05-2005, 12:52 AM
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I am not sure, but would think if you are involved in a clinical trial there might be some rule that would prevent a person with a high BMI from participation. Your signature says you are already scheduled so I would guess doctor determined you were eligible for participation. You could ask your doctor for a copy of the trial's requirements. Sorry, I don't know the answer, but I hope this helps.

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Old 07-05-2005, 06:36 AM
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Hi Patrick,
it has been known for doctors to deny ADR surgery to patients because they are overweight. Your BMI should generally be between 20 and 25 in an ideal world. If it's up to 30 then certainly you should be advising your surgeon as your outcome will be far from good. I've experienced this with patients on a number of occasions and although it's not life threatening, it makes the surgery difficult for the surgeon to do, and it makes the recovery extremely difficult for the patient because remember this is an anterior approach. There is a link here to check your BMI out

http://www.weightwatchers.co.uk/heal.../calc_bmi.aspx

I don't know if you do it in kilos in the USA -- -- -- I just thought this might help
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PS there have been exceptions to this rule with bodybuilders and people of unusual statures
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Old 07-05-2005, 07:43 AM
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Yes, they *could* deny you, for your own safety, among other reasons. Our wonderful search engine, in response to "body mass", comes up with this (which is already in the FAQ's, which every member should read when first joining...):

http://www.adrsupport.org/private-cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cg...;f=6;t=000068#000000

Also, each study, as Kat has mentioned, has inclusion and exclusion criteria, among which is always a mention of weight in excess of a certain amount over normal. Do a little searching on your own here and I'm sure you'll turn up the criteria for the ProDisc and Charite...
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Old 07-05-2005, 09:10 PM
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FAQ....why do I bother posting....everything is in there.
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*10 plus years of back pain
*'99 first MRI shows L4-5 bulge
*'04 MRI shows L4-5 grade 3 annular tear & rupture with moderate DDD
*'05 Discogram shows concordant pain at L4-5
*8/18/05 scheduled ADR surgery participant in Kineflex/Charite study
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Old 07-06-2005, 06:34 AM
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Most things are Patrick -- - - Grrrrrr!!!!!

See my other posting to you my friend
Best
Alastair
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www.adrsupportuk.com/
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Old 07-07-2005, 08:48 AM
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Patrick

Would you say that LOUDER, buddy? We want *everyone* to hear it! ;-)
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Years of pain, discectomy, research into anatomy, hardware, clinical trials, facilities, surgeons, techniques, insurance. Attempts at ProDisc, Activ-L trials. Now, low bone density. D'oh!!!

At 61 years, no longer qualifying for trials due to my age (chronological, not physical or mental).

2009 - Working on improving bone density or getting rich so I can go to Germany, where medicine and insurance have gone beyond the Stone Age.
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