Condom Catheters: Yay Or Nay?

[Eddie_G]

I hope some of you can get a laugh out of this but this is actually a serious question. The whole point that we are here wanting ADR is to avoid the more barbaric options that face us like fusion. Shouldn't this philosophy carry over to all areas of our care?

Can a hospital compel me to use a traditional cathether even if I bring my own, more compassionate, condom cathethers?

I know I can refuse any treatment, but if NYU hospital has a policy who has the last word?
My surgeon's nurse said it was up to the hospital but she would ask Dr. Goldstein anyway. She then told me she had a cathether when she gave birth.
WELL WHOOP DEE @*$^%! DOO GOOD FOR YOU!!!
YOU DONT HAVE TWIG & BERRIES!!!(I thought to myself)
Then she said "Well you will be under anasthesia" (What about when they pull it out? Huh? Huh?)

I bought some condom cathethers and some paper tape last night.
I'm an exit only kinda guy!



So........er.......uh.........whadda ya think?



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[Kim]

Eddie
Any patient in the US has the right to refuse any treatment they are not comfortable with. I would discuss this with my surgeon if you are that adamant about it. They may have some concerns about the effect of anesthesia causing you to be inable to urinate yourself after the surgery. I know this is a concern in some surgeries. There may be a concern about keeping the bladder empty and out of the surgical field during the surgery as well. The second would be my first thought on this as far as the surgeon goes. Beleive me you will be in pain after surgery and if you are like I was then u will be glad you didnt have to get up right after surgery to go potty. LOL
Course I had a 2 level fusion so ............maybe more painful than u will have to experience but this is something to talk to your doc about and get settled before you go to the hospital. Most hospitals are like drones lol they do what they are told and unless you really rock the boat or get an order from the surgeon before hand you will have what they want done.
Hope this helps

[chasswen]

eddie
they catheter you when you are knocked out and i know for me it was removed in less 24hrs
and by the time it came to removal you hurt from all the other crap you dont even feel them remove it.
chuck
p/s the feeling you have to pee is the pits but passes pretty fast. and be black and blue down there also i was dumb founded

[Harrison]

In 2000, I blew out an appendix (what a mess!) and woke up with some fancy seams in my gut. I was horrified when I needed "help" to get my bladder drained. This experience was, by far, worse than any of the procedures or discomfort I had with ADR.

Eddie, it's a good question. I am sure there's a reason why this madness continues...not everyone likes to torture patients!?

As a rule, why not catheter all patients who have spinal or abdominal surgery -- while they are under?!

PS Eddie: the "gazinta" is far worse than the "gazouta"

[Eddie_G]

So I guess my question really is "Can they refuse to accept the condom cathethers I am bringing with me?" Here is what they look like:

Condom Cathether Picture

It does the EXACT same thing, but is a condom cathether just as good as a "gazinta"?

What WILL they say when I bring my box full of condom catheters?
What WILL they say when I threathen to pull out their cathether?

I'm buying 10 more today just in case. They're only like 1.30 each at Jerrys Surgical Supply in Bayonne. The elderly saleswoman was very understanding and even offered to help size me.

I refused of course....

[chasswen]

ya eddie
only one problem with those as they dont leave the baller emtry and thats what there are looking for they need as much room as possible for the aproach.
my cut is about in the middle of navel and the hairline this was for l4 l5 so i would guess having a full baller would make a diff.
chuck
besides after them placing your guts on a stirerl cloth what's a goesina.
btw that was one of my biggest fears.
i recall doing alot of whinning about getting cathethered but when they came to remove it i didnt want it removed they didnt lesson to me. shrug

[chasswen]

What WILL they say when I threathen to pull out their cathether?

it wont matter as you will just wake up with one. its just that simple.

[cathydownunder]

C'mon Eddie be a man!
I imagine there's very legitimate reasons for the catheter. The bladdder needs to be drained during surgery and recovery, and the nurses need to monitor the amount of urine being produced after surgery.
I've worked in aged care for many years and have had male patients with Parkinsons Disease that we had to put the condom catheter on each night. Believe me, they're awkward to put on (and you probably won't be up to doing it yourself)and can be messy to remove too.
The men I've spoken to who"ve had catheters have all been glad they were in,and had no pain, just slight discomfort when they were removed. One even had to have his reinserted while awake due to other post-op complications.
Cathy

[Eddie_G]

It's the extra 12 inches of being a man that I'm worried about!

I guess the Dr. knows best so I'll do whatever he says since there seems to be a consensus about the old style cathethers legitimacy.

Too bad for Willy though



But really.....What could POSSIBLY be worse than a positive discogram? Not much lemme tell ya brother!!!!



and sisters!



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[tmont]

Hey Eddie,

For what it's worth I completely understand. Had to have a catheter during childbirth and I can tell you that man, when they pulled it out hours later I went through the roof even without the 12 inches of 'being a man'.

Not fun. But take heart: as in kidney stones, 'this too shall pass'

Trace