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Old 04-19-2014, 08:08 PM
Jerry5 Jerry5 is offline
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Default Doing Terrible

Mean that in a good way, if that is possible.

Please call (804)673-1177, wait and press (2). (BCBS International)

Tell them if they want to keep people enrolled, they need to approve these surgeries, until the Communist FDA approves this in the USA.

(sorry for the rant, but people need to have this option, this M6 is an American Product, and the surgeons in Europe, have implanted this for SEVEN Years, this is beyond ridiculous)

Until, then, I am very glad you are doing well.

God Bless,
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L2-3 herniation, two days before Thanksgiving, 2012, Discectomy/Laminectomy, 3/13 Numbness in the right leg, lateral femoral, gone, July 10, 2014 L45 M6 ADR, July 15 PLIF L5-S1, Not able to access L51 Anterior.
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Old 04-19-2014, 10:04 PM
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As far as I can see, there is more than just the FDA at work here:

http://www.cafc.uscourts.gov/images/...-25-2013.1.PDF
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Old 04-20-2014, 10:04 AM
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Default That took awhile

That was twisted, took me awhile to read that...,

I will have to go over that again?

For Sure DePUy, (Johnson and Johnson) has a LOT of money, and as you can see, will tie this up in court as long as necessary, to put SK out of business.

Sounds to me, that J&J is stealing the technology.

We will see.

For sure, for now, if you want to have an M6, you will have to go out of Conus.
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L2-3 herniation, two days before Thanksgiving, 2012, Discectomy/Laminectomy, 3/13 Numbness in the right leg, lateral femoral, gone, July 10, 2014 L45 M6 ADR, July 15 PLIF L5-S1, Not able to access L51 Anterior.
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Old 04-20-2014, 10:50 AM
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Jerry, no way I am reading that entire lawsuit todday but for sure J&J has deep pockets. I cannot help but wonder. if there is a patent infringement, why is the M6 allowed in Germany, Spain, UK etc. J&J could also persue Spinal Kinetics in other countries. Who is right and who is wrong...? In the meantime it seems to be tied up in the court system; so yes, overseas is the only option for now.
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February 2014: endoscopic foraminotomy, Dr Bitan
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Old 04-21-2014, 09:09 AM
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Default Mike C

Yea that took awhile to read.

I am not a laywer, and we do not have all the information.

The patent was applied for, by Spinal Kinetics, in 2002/3 and over the years, have refined the final design, I guess that decided the strands would better fit into a slot, or hole, than try to land the strands in a groove...,

Go figure, this is what they are arguing about, seems J&J has a similar product in some stage of design, and their product has the holes, also, so they are arguing that SK cannot use this design.

If SK is arguing this in California, this may be their biggest mistake, they need to take it somewhere that has a Judge and Jury, that will listen to common sense, not money.

That is my take.

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L2-3 herniation, two days before Thanksgiving, 2012, Discectomy/Laminectomy, 3/13 Numbness in the right leg, lateral femoral, gone, July 10, 2014 L45 M6 ADR, July 15 PLIF L5-S1, Not able to access L51 Anterior.
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Old 04-21-2014, 10:05 AM
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Isnt this old news?
Wasnt this decided last year?
IIRC i read this in the news awhile back.
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Old 04-22-2014, 09:12 PM
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Default Decided

pittpete,
I read the pdf and this sounded really ridiculous, like politicians, arguing how best to steal your money.

This what big companies do best, they destroy the process, buy politicians, and work the system.

The M6 should have been available a LONG time ago.

This patent process, once you apply and receive your patent, and approved idea, if you refine the process, you should be able to move forward with your product, this seems to NOT be the case.

This is a long read, 32 pages, but the end result, was there needed to be 'another' case, which is what J&J wanted, to tie this up in court to keep SK from moving forward with their product.

My guess is that SK, will just move from the USA.
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