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Old 09-26-2022, 09:32 PM
Suzanne1234 Suzanne1234 is offline
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I was reading that Dr. Bertagnoli reconstructs a major ligament when he does ADR? If I remember correctly. Does Dr. Clavel do this too?

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Old 09-27-2022, 04:06 AM
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I was reading that Dr. Bertagnoli reconstructs a major ligament when he does ADR? If I remember correctly. Does Dr. Clavel do this too?

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It seems so, Bertagnoli is a top surgeon despite some people do not like him due to his exclusive focus on prodisk.
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Old 09-29-2022, 10:14 AM
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In my case, Clavel removed the anterior ligament as part of access and said the posterior one was calcified, removed it and did not reconstruct. I assume that accounts for some instability that the neck muscles now have to compensate for.
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Old 10-02-2022, 04:44 AM
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In my case, Clavel removed the anterior ligament as part of access and said the posterior one was calcified, removed it and did not reconstruct. I assume that accounts for some instability that the neck muscles now have to compensate for.
How are you doing Phil? Still with problems when you lie down? I hope you are doing well and at least you do not develope further issues.

Maybe prp or stem cells can help you to regenerate that ligaments, my new anterior ligaments are hard as rocks and now that you talk about posterior ligaments.. maybe mine were also removed as I feel pain in that area that are maybe related.. I have acquired an infrared lamp (360) that hopefully helps me to heal that ligaments as much as possible and reduce pain maybe
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Old 10-02-2022, 07:52 PM
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Maybe prp or stem cells can help you to regenerate that ligaments
PRP or stems cells wouldn't regenerate a ligament that was removed. If it remained but was damaged, scarred, partially excised, etc. those could help but they will not grow a new ligament to replace what isn't there.

I've not ever heard of anyone doing this yet but, if someone starts playing with the idea, a partial ligament transplant would also benefit from subsequent stem cell injections.

What PRP and stem cells might do to help a joint that's unstable because a ligament was removed would be to strength surrounding ligaments. You'd never get full stability back but you'd be able to improve the situation
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