ADRSupport Community  

Go Back   ADRSupport Community > General Discussion > International Assistance

International Assistance Any topics relating to traveling or communicating with international treatment locations are here.


Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 03-31-2016, 08:32 PM
Tom B. Tom B. is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 29
Default Possible Trip to Germany for Multi-Level ADR

Hello! I'm exploring the possibility of going to Germany for surgery. What have been the experiences communicating with surgeons beforehand? How is payment made for the surgery? How is a medical tourism company paid? Is a tourism representative necessary or recommended? Should I go by myself if it's not convenient for family members?
__________________
2002 - leg symptoms after ice skating lessons
2005 - DDD diagnosis - mainly at L3 - S1 (L1/2 not good either)
X-rays, 2 MRIs, EMG, mylegram/CT scan, discogram/CT scan, 2nd discogram
3 ESIs, nerve root injection, PT, chiropractic, SED at L5/S1 - qualified success
February 9, 1016 - stood up from chair - left leg and pelvis numbness and tingling, moderate lumbar pain
X-rays, MRI, CT scan, discogram/CT scan, mylegram/CT scan
ESI
April 26, 2016 - L3 - S1 3-level ProDisc-L
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 03-31-2016, 09:40 PM
Fathub's Avatar
Fathub Fathub is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 156
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom B. View Post
Hello! I'm exploring the possibility of going to Germany for surgery. What have been the experiences communicating with surgeons beforehand? How is payment made for the surgery? How is a medical tourism company paid? Is a tourism representative necessary or recommended? Should I go by myself if it's not convenient for family members?
I went to Bertagnoli in Bogen if your looking at him......call me.
__________________
Dec 1/15 - 3 level ADR from S1/L3 c/w 360 mobility preservation at L3/L4 for Spondylolisthesis done by Dr. Bertagnoli in Bogen GmbH.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 04-10-2016, 02:48 PM
annapurna annapurna is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 1,595
Default

To give partial answers:

Communication: really depends on the surgeon and their office. Some are better than others but, in general, everyone's consensus here is that they're reasonably good. There's always a few real stinkers so check into posts about any given surgeon once you start narrowing your list.

Payment: Again, depends on the office. We've paid by bank transfer, credit card and by cash, depending on who we were paying.

Tourism representative: Personal opinion is to avoid them and only use them if you're stretched on your research time to the point where you can either research the medical stuff or the location. Buying a Lonely Planet book or similar plus a little time on the internet typically gives you enough to get a feel for an area. Pretty much all of the surgeons you're likely to see in Europe aren't in places that tend to be abusive towards tourists.

Going by yourself: Can be done but you're likely to need more recovery time and more help. If you do this, I can't argue strenuously enough to pack light. Use the money you would have paid for the second ticket and figure that you'll go through that same amount making travel easier for yourself. It can range from taxis and help during travel, purchasing some stuff overseas, leaving behind travel-only purchases when you return to make your returning luggage lighter, etc.
__________________
Laura - L5S1 Charitee
C5/6 and 6/7 Prodisc C
Facet problems L4-S1
Knee, Shoulder, Toe, Finger, Elbow Problems

Jim - no spine problem but lots of other fun medical challenges

"There are many Annapurnas in the lives of men" Maurice Herzog
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 04-11-2016, 08:34 AM
Tom B. Tom B. is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 29
Default Thanks.

Quote:
Originally Posted by annapurna View Post
To give partial answers:

Communication: really depends on the surgeon and their office. Some are better than others but, in general, everyone's consensus here is that they're reasonably good. There's always a few real stinkers so check into posts about any given surgeon once you start narrowing your list.

Payment: Again, depends on the office. We've paid by bank transfer, credit card and by cash, depending on who we were paying.

Tourism representative: Personal opinion is to avoid them and only use them if you're stretched on your research time to the point where you can either research the medical stuff or the location. Buying a Lonely Planet book or similar plus a little time on the internet typically gives you enough to get a feel for an area. Pretty much all of the surgeons you're likely to see in Europe aren't in places that tend to be abusive towards tourists.

Going by yourself: Can be done but you're likely to need more recovery time and more help. If you do this, I can't argue strenuously enough to pack light. Use the money you would have paid for the second ticket and figure that you'll go through that same amount making travel easier for yourself. It can range from taxis and help during travel, purchasing some stuff overseas, leaving behind travel-only purchases when you return to make your returning luggage lighter, etc.
annapurna, thanks for the advice. I read on here somewhere about checking the exchange rate used by your bank (for paying the hospital) - don't know much about that. The other thing I'll have to look into is how to pay for things there. I've been to Germany twice, but that was back when people used travelers checks.
__________________
2002 - leg symptoms after ice skating lessons
2005 - DDD diagnosis - mainly at L3 - S1 (L1/2 not good either)
X-rays, 2 MRIs, EMG, mylegram/CT scan, discogram/CT scan, 2nd discogram
3 ESIs, nerve root injection, PT, chiropractic, SED at L5/S1 - qualified success
February 9, 1016 - stood up from chair - left leg and pelvis numbness and tingling, moderate lumbar pain
X-rays, MRI, CT scan, discogram/CT scan, mylegram/CT scan
ESI
April 26, 2016 - L3 - S1 3-level ProDisc-L
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 04-11-2016, 10:44 AM
Romakis's Avatar
Romakis Romakis is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 197
Default exchange rate

The bank normally charges 3% fee for currency conversion. Credit Card does the same (most of them), but most cards have at least 1% credit reward or whatever they call it. it might be better to pay with a credit card if you can pay it all back on the next statement. In my case I saved 1%. It was not huge savings, but $350 bucks doesn't hurt either .
__________________
46yo, DDD of L4-S1. Microdiscectomy L5-L4 in 2014. L4-L5-S1 M6 ADR with Dr. Clavel - June 2015.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 04-11-2016, 10:49 AM
Romakis's Avatar
Romakis Romakis is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 197
Default Germaany vs Spain

Sorry, forgot to add - Clavel will accept credit cards, and it is one payment. Bierstedt will only accept a wire transfer, and you have to make 2 of them.
__________________
46yo, DDD of L4-S1. Microdiscectomy L5-L4 in 2014. L4-L5-S1 M6 ADR with Dr. Clavel - June 2015.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 04-11-2016, 03:18 PM
annapurna annapurna is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 1,595
Default

For non-surgery costs, you can sometimes find a bank in the US who will sell you Euros for very low to no fee, generally if you already have an account with them or they're already making money off you in some other way. Depending on how much money you want to carry, you might be able to use that for food, lodging, and travel instead of paying the credit card fees for every transaction.
__________________
Laura - L5S1 Charitee
C5/6 and 6/7 Prodisc C
Facet problems L4-S1
Knee, Shoulder, Toe, Finger, Elbow Problems

Jim - no spine problem but lots of other fun medical challenges

"There are many Annapurnas in the lives of men" Maurice Herzog
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 04-11-2016, 08:59 PM
Tom B. Tom B. is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 29
Default Thanks

Romakis and annapurna, thanks for the info. and ideas!
__________________
2002 - leg symptoms after ice skating lessons
2005 - DDD diagnosis - mainly at L3 - S1 (L1/2 not good either)
X-rays, 2 MRIs, EMG, mylegram/CT scan, discogram/CT scan, 2nd discogram
3 ESIs, nerve root injection, PT, chiropractic, SED at L5/S1 - qualified success
February 9, 1016 - stood up from chair - left leg and pelvis numbness and tingling, moderate lumbar pain
X-rays, MRI, CT scan, discogram/CT scan, mylegram/CT scan
ESI
April 26, 2016 - L3 - S1 3-level ProDisc-L
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 04-12-2016, 01:06 AM
Stonewall_Boris Stonewall_Boris is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 547
Default Hi Tom

I had my back surgery by Dr. Biersted in Germany in 2012. Is there anything I can answer for you?
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 04-13-2016, 12:36 PM
Tom B. Tom B. is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 29
Default Thanks

Thanks, Boris. How did you transfer funds?

I've been researching how currency exchange works. It really seems to be a bank scam. And I'm not using this word lightly. It appears that occasional travelers like us are routinely ripped off by banks. So, with a little searching, I found TransferWise. There are probably other similar companies. Has anyone here had experience with TransferWise? I haven't signed up yet, but probably will.
__________________
2002 - leg symptoms after ice skating lessons
2005 - DDD diagnosis - mainly at L3 - S1 (L1/2 not good either)
X-rays, 2 MRIs, EMG, mylegram/CT scan, discogram/CT scan, 2nd discogram
3 ESIs, nerve root injection, PT, chiropractic, SED at L5/S1 - qualified success
February 9, 1016 - stood up from chair - left leg and pelvis numbness and tingling, moderate lumbar pain
X-rays, MRI, CT scan, discogram/CT scan, mylegram/CT scan
ESI
April 26, 2016 - L3 - S1 3-level ProDisc-L
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
For those of you who have had cervical multi level approvals steve55 Insurance Hell 3 06-23-2009 02:11 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:53 AM.


© Copyright 2006-2017 ADRSupport.org All rights reserved.