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Old 03-03-2019, 01:21 PM
GKTM300 GKTM300 is offline
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Being frugal with your spine is gonna cost you bro
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12/22/04 blew L4-5 and L5-S1 out lifting wrong
4/1/05 back to work thanks to Oxy
11/11/13 hurt back lifting again
6/6/15 last of many MRI L4-5 medium paracentral bulge with juice leaking and mid to left bulge on L5-S1
No invasive procedures except steroid shots that did nothing n hurt wicked bad
9/24/2016 Adr surgery Bertagnoli>1 year doing great
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Old 03-03-2019, 01:41 PM
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Being frugal with your spine is gonna cost you bro
What are you talking about? Is the surgeon going to perform better if I had fought with the insurance company beforehand, or paid out of pocket?
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20 December 2018 - MRI revealed massive L5/S1 extrusion
5 March 2019 - ActivL ADR at Texas Back with Dr. Blumenthal (at age 31)
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Old 03-03-2019, 01:48 PM
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Bertagnoli doesnt take insurance bro you have to pay out of pocket then submit it to insurance. As insurance companies delay payment n arbitrate prices its not what the BEST Surgeons in the world want. I had bcbs federal. Usually if your in usa n the procedure is not fda approved it makes it hard to get an advance payment. Insurance is like medicade now. I believe to get the best care you need cash. Cash is king. And bei g oainfree is better than cash to me. Its all a game in the usa. Doctors go to a 2 hour class n then r certified to install new discs
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12/22/04 blew L4-5 and L5-S1 out lifting wrong
4/1/05 back to work thanks to Oxy
11/11/13 hurt back lifting again
6/6/15 last of many MRI L4-5 medium paracentral bulge with juice leaking and mid to left bulge on L5-S1
No invasive procedures except steroid shots that did nothing n hurt wicked bad
9/24/2016 Adr surgery Bertagnoli>1 year doing great
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Old 03-04-2019, 08:45 PM
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Bertagnoli doesnt take insurance bro you have to pay out of pocket then submit it to insurance. As insurance companies delay payment n arbitrate prices its not what the BEST Surgeons in the world want. I had bcbs federal. Usually if your in usa n the procedure is not fda approved it makes it hard to get an advance payment. Insurance is like medicade now. I believe to get the best care you need cash. Cash is king. And bei g oainfree is better than cash to me. Its all a game in the usa. Doctors go to a 2 hour class n then r certified to install new discs
Dude, wtf are you talking about. Why do I have to go to Bertagnoli? And why do I need to pay my surgeon upfront with cash? Is he suddenly going to perform better? And guess what, if I had surgery and had complications back in the US, most surgeons here won't want to take me on as a patient. Instead of having ADR surgery in my hometown (which was an option), I chose to fly out to Texas and go to what is generally considered to be the best place in the US to have this done. It's all about weighing the options and deciding what's best for yourself.
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20 December 2018 - MRI revealed massive L5/S1 extrusion
5 March 2019 - ActivL ADR at Texas Back with Dr. Blumenthal (at age 31)
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Old 03-04-2019, 09:17 PM
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GKTM300, what you said about surgical training for US doctors is false. Docs here have been performing ADRs since 1999. I received mine in 2004.

Frugality has little to do with Robb's issue; your comment is not helpful. Please refrain from posting on this topic. Thanks for your cooperation.
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Old 03-04-2019, 09:35 PM
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Well, I made it to Plano, Texas. Did all my pre-op stuff today. The meeting with the psychologist was interesting. You take a test which is 433 questions long. Some of the questions are pretty obvious in what they're trying to figure out Have you ever made a plan to kill yourself?. Some of the questions weren't so obvious (at least, not to me) Does the top of your head feel tender?.

Surgery is tomorrow morning.
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20 December 2018 - MRI revealed massive L5/S1 extrusion
5 March 2019 - ActivL ADR at Texas Back with Dr. Blumenthal (at age 31)
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Old 03-04-2019, 11:45 PM
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Good luck tomorrow!
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Old 03-05-2019, 01:51 PM
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Maybe I didn't follow the whole thread. Why the psych testing? Everyone thought I was crazy for going to Spain by myself, with a doc I met on the internet, to get 3 non FDA approved devices! Somehow it made perfect sense to me then. Looking back, it now seems a bit crazy. But in my case, so far, crazy wins thanks to this forum and Dr Clavel's team. You will be a winner also. Stay positive and frame your recovery expectations appropriately. (TBI never did approve me for ADR due to low bone density)
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C3-C4:Mild disc osteophytes. Mild-moderate right facet arthrosis. Mild right foraminal stenosis.
C4-C5:Midline central disc protrusion, significant. Mild canal stenosis.
C5-C6:Moderate disc osteophytes. Mild-moderate canal stenosis. Moderate-severe bilateral foraminal stenosis.
C6-C-7:Mild-moderate disc osteophytes. Mild canal stenosis. Moderate left and moderate-severe right foraminal stenosis.
June 29,2016-3 level M6 (C4-C7) Dr. Clavel Barcelona
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Old 03-05-2019, 02:44 PM
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Good luck with your procedure and recovery!
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Old 03-07-2019, 09:39 AM
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I've started a new thread here documenting my surgery and recovery:

https://www.adrsupport.org/forums/sh...012#post118012
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20 December 2018 - MRI revealed massive L5/S1 extrusion
5 March 2019 - ActivL ADR at Texas Back with Dr. Blumenthal (at age 31)
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