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Old 08-18-2005, 01:24 AM
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Hi. I was authorized by Empire BC/BS of NY (Empire Health Plan) for a two-level ADR. However, in the fine print, the authorization says that the surgery could be held to subsequent review.

Dr. Regan's office who seemed familiar w/this insurance said that they very well could deny payment, despite authorization.

Has anyone ever heard of this caveat? If so, I guess one gets the surgery and tries the appeal route.

Best, Allan
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Old 08-18-2005, 01:46 AM
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Many months ago, Beth Israel halted all ADR procedures because even previously authorized procedures were being left unpaid.

I still don't understand the insurance landscape.

Mark
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Old 08-18-2005, 01:47 AM
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I beleive that they have been back on for some time.
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Old 08-18-2005, 09:12 AM
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When did you receive this authorization? It seems like a case of insurance CYA to say it's authorized and in the same breath say it could be held to subsequent review. Have you spoken with the insurance co to determine if it means what it says?
Would you get this procedure done if you knew for certain it would be paid for?
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Old 08-18-2005, 10:38 AM
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Thanks Mark.

Mariaa, I recieved this authorization in late March, 2005. The insurance company is tight-lipped and said that they have the right to hold the authorization for review - that's it. I would have surgery if my back pain declines - which it is, or if I have an urgent need. Still, it's unsettling b/c I don't have the means to pay for a two-level out-of-pocket.

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Old 08-18-2005, 10:41 AM
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Not that it helps any, but pretty much my dilemma as well (although I *seriously* doubt UHC would approve me for a two level ADR right now).

My thinking is that my best option is to try and hold on for a few (best guess / estimate on my part) more months for prodisc approval and then run with that...

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Old 08-18-2005, 11:28 AM
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David, I'm thinking the same thing: do it when ADR is more standard. I'd have to live underneath a subway if I paid out-of-pocket for a two-level (well, interesting story). Thanks for advice. Wonder if you'd qualify for an Prodisc vs. Charite trial if you're willing to take this chance. Best, Allan
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Old 08-18-2005, 12:07 PM
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Studies:

Good question. Possibly. It is conceivably possible that I might qualify for the Activ-L study as well (as I note on Dr. Y's website)

Prodsic versus Charite: I am leaning more towards Prodisc instead of Charite, but I pretty much agree with what Mark says: The type of implant is generally less important than the skill / experience of the surgeon and the placement of the implant.

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Old 08-18-2005, 07:07 PM
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Hmm guys what studies are you talking about? I have been looking for studies and have not been able to find anything actively recruiting right now for more than one level. If you can point me in the right direction I would be grateful!
Kim
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Herniated disc L5/S1 2000 Discectomy 10/2003 Rhizotomy 8/2004 and 3/2005Discogram 11/04 grade 7 tear L5/S1
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Old 08-18-2005, 08:10 PM
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I can't find a centralized location for this info. Bummed that my DDD excludes me from trials.

The hard way (sorry, TinyUrl site down):

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...al&btnG=Search
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