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HIZ tear at l5 s1 with mild disc height reduction and mild dehydration. |
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My L5 S1 is half fused and i have small disc there. I think i will not have problem there.
@Blizzaga I actualy had discogram and that discrabe annular tear better than mri. I have quite big tear there and they found contrast leaking in the foramen. So this disc is completly dead. No wonder why i never had any relief... I dont know why that disc, they say genetic, thats all. I didnt had any fall or trauma to the spine ever...
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Back pain since 16 year old, im 31 now. DDD L3 L4, positive discogram at that level. Concordant pain. 28.02.2012 Selective endoscopic discectomy with thermal annuloplasty. No relief at all. Considering ADR at that level |
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And you've had constant pain for 15 years? It never got better?
I've some annular tears can heal with time...Obviously yours is not one of them unfortunately.
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HIZ tear at l5 s1 with mild disc height reduction and mild dehydration. |
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Hi FutureRobot, how long does your annular tear heal? Mine l5s1 has been a year seem better but i still can't lift thing more than 3kg and i have flare up here and there. I am going to do a discogram but not sure will it make the tear worse after doing it. Worry and worry need help !!!!
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Annular tear can heal in some case. For me it didnt work. I waited 10 years to finaly get diagnose, because before that they only say you are to young, and they didnt belive i have pain from only black mri disc. Thats why my neuro perform discogram to se true pain source. You should consider discogram if you are planing to have some surgery. Honestly the discography proccedure was big big pain, but on another hand i was glad that this pain was every day pain, so i knew that disc and annular tear was pain generator.
Discogram result: L3 L4 positive discogram. Annular tear grade 3 with contrast leaking in foramen. Concoordant pain 10/10. Somewhere on the internet there is grade 1-6 for annular tear and somewhere is 1-3 so im confused. Based from Chirogeek, i have worst tear grade 3. Im confused...
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Back pain since 16 year old, im 31 now. DDD L3 L4, positive discogram at that level. Concordant pain. 28.02.2012 Selective endoscopic discectomy with thermal annuloplasty. No relief at all. Considering ADR at that level |
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10 years is a long time to be in pain. Some believers say that the tears in a degenerated disc can heal by themselves, but it is just belief, not scientific fact. It is so sad that this lie is used by some doctors to avoid surgery.
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2015 Lost ability to sit 2016 Gradually worsening despite conservative treatment 2016 L4-L5, L5-S1 activ L success! |
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I am afraid to go to surgery because i have no nerve compresion and pain in leg. I have big pain walking and that is a thing that killes me most. I realy dont want to have leg nerve pain post op. I am actualy living with this more 10years. It silly because i see alot of people getting surgery if not better within 6months. I remember when i was 16, i go to trip to Barcelona with highscool and i could not walk trough the city because of back pain. So my disc was bad allready then. I think is the time to go to surgery because my life will pass and my back will not...
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Back pain since 16 year old, im 31 now. DDD L3 L4, positive discogram at that level. Concordant pain. 28.02.2012 Selective endoscopic discectomy with thermal annuloplasty. No relief at all. Considering ADR at that level |
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Some definitely heal. It really depends on how degenerated the disc is. A tear in a hydrated disc will, but in a black disc the chances are slim. Problem is, they never heal to the previous strength..they are always susceptible (I learned this the hard way).
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HIZ tear at l5 s1 with mild disc height reduction and mild dehydration. |
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But the likelihood of healing after a thermal annuloplasty isn't good. That coupled with a radiographically dehydrated (black) disk means that the odds aren't in favor for any kind of healing without some level of intervention.
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Laura - L5S1 Charitee C5/6 and 6/7 Prodisc C Facet problems L4-S1 General joint hypermobility Jim - C4/5, C5/6, L4/5 disk bulges and facet damage, L4/5 disk tears, currently using regenerative medicine to address "There are many Annapurnas in the lives of men" Maurice Herzog |
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