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Old 04-03-2019, 10:13 AM
Cheryl0331 Cheryl0331 is offline
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Default Please share updated surgical cost estimates

Could patients who have had surgery in Germany or Spain within the last 6 months to a year please share your cost estimates?
My 2 level cervical with M6 in 2015 was $32,000. USD
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54 yr old female 5'7" 147 lbs. non-smoker conservative treatments failed
2007 fusion @ C4-6 peek cages, failed due to long term use of cox-2 inhibitor
2008 revised C4-6 donor bone, plate & screws
2009 fusion with Roi-C @ C3-4
2015 MRI & CT mjr ddd @ C6-7, segmental kyphosis at C7-T1, 2-level M6-C prosthesis by Dr. Clavel Barcelona Spain
2019 H.O. formed behind M6-C @ C6-7 left nerve rt & in spinal canal.
2020 Revision C6-7 to a CP-ESP prosthesis by Dr. Schmitz Dusseldorf Germany

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Old 07-02-2019, 03:11 PM
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Germany 2 levels cervical $35K US 3 levels lumbar $65K US
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Severe neck and back pain, 10 years+ on opiate pain meds every 4 hours, numbness and weakness in both arms and legs.
Evaluated by Dr Bertagnoli for ProDisc at L3L4, L4L5, L5S1, C5C6 and C6C7

Sept 4th, 2019: Completed 3 level CP-ESP at C4 thru C7 with Dr. Biren Desai in Cologne, Germany

Scheduled for March 11, 2020: L3 thru S1 LP-ESP with Dr Clavel in Barcelona
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Old 10-04-2019, 01:09 PM
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Hi Funcrew,
I hope your surgery went well and your recovery thus far. Please let me know how everything is. Just this week I emailed Dr Desai my MRI and X-rays, along with the questionnaire. I’d love to talk with you about Dr Desai, Cologne for 2 weeks, etc
I need to have a 2-level cervical done. About how much do you think this will run? Have you tried filing a claim yet with insurance?
Thanks - John
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Old 10-04-2019, 02:29 PM
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Hi Funcrew,
I hope your surgery went well and your recovery thus far. Please let me know how everything is. Just this week I emailed Dr Desai my MRI and X-rays, along with the questionnaire. I’d love to talk with you about Dr Desai, Cologne for 2 weeks, etc
I need to have a 2-level cervical done. About how much do you think this will run? Have you tried filing a claim yet with insurance?
Thanks - John
John, I'm in the same position as you are, currently researching two level replacement at C5-7. Haven't heard back from Desai yet, but Clavel in Spain was about the same as some others report for two level cervical ADR = 29,000 Euros or about $32K US. In the US, quotes for the procedure seem to end up about 48$K US and up. Good luck with your research and please keep us posted with your decisions along the way. There are still people here reading even though participation is low.
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with fractured end plates, disc bulges & osteophytes
various injections, nerve blocks, facet block
Developed severe ongoing occipital pain.
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Old 10-08-2019, 10:17 AM
Cheryl0331 Cheryl0331 is offline
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I sent two packages to Dr. Clavel ; it cost me $250 for guaranteed delivery for the first one , then he ordered a CT and that was another $180.

I couldn't get our laptop to upload the DICOM file.

Still waiting on my husband to complete his patient forms , so that Dr. Clavel can give us his assessment.

The snail mail thing is grueling. So I opted for UPS , because USPS could not guarantee a delivery within a certain time. They said it could take a month!
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54 yr old female 5'7" 147 lbs. non-smoker conservative treatments failed
2007 fusion @ C4-6 peek cages, failed due to long term use of cox-2 inhibitor
2008 revised C4-6 donor bone, plate & screws
2009 fusion with Roi-C @ C3-4
2015 MRI & CT mjr ddd @ C6-7, segmental kyphosis at C7-T1, 2-level M6-C prosthesis by Dr. Clavel Barcelona Spain
2019 H.O. formed behind M6-C @ C6-7 left nerve rt & in spinal canal.
2020 Revision C6-7 to a CP-ESP prosthesis by Dr. Schmitz Dusseldorf Germany
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Old 10-08-2019, 10:38 AM
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The snail mail thing is grueling. So I opted for UPS , because USPS could not guarantee a delivery within a certain time. They said it could take a month!

We used USPS Global Express. It's often cheaper than UPS but fast delivery with tracking.
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C5/6 and 6/7 Prodisc C
Facet problems L4-S1
General joint hypermobility

Jim - C4/5, C5/6, L4/5 disk bulges and facet damage, L4/5 disk tears, currently using regenerative medicine to address

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Old 10-08-2019, 01:27 PM
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We used USPS Global Express. It's often cheaper than UPS but fast delivery with tracking.
The UPS clerk scared me out of using USPS anything.
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54 yr old female 5'7" 147 lbs. non-smoker conservative treatments failed
2007 fusion @ C4-6 peek cages, failed due to long term use of cox-2 inhibitor
2008 revised C4-6 donor bone, plate & screws
2009 fusion with Roi-C @ C3-4
2015 MRI & CT mjr ddd @ C6-7, segmental kyphosis at C7-T1, 2-level M6-C prosthesis by Dr. Clavel Barcelona Spain
2019 H.O. formed behind M6-C @ C6-7 left nerve rt & in spinal canal.
2020 Revision C6-7 to a CP-ESP prosthesis by Dr. Schmitz Dusseldorf Germany
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Old 10-09-2019, 10:45 AM
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The UPS clerk scared me out of using USPS anything.

Do you think that they might have a bias? We did okay with USPS but you have to factor in the effect of going through Customs. Fill out the forms wrong and your package, no matter how innocuous, could be delayed for weeks or never get there. A trained clerk who knows the forms and system, USPS, UPS or FedEx, will go a lot farther towards getting your package there quickly.


I deal with sample shipments from Europe at my work. Fill out a form wrong and that one week rush shipment can sit for a month waiting for all of the corrections to be made and acknowledged.
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Laura - L5S1 Charitee
C5/6 and 6/7 Prodisc C
Facet problems L4-S1
General joint hypermobility

Jim - C4/5, C5/6, L4/5 disk bulges and facet damage, L4/5 disk tears, currently using regenerative medicine to address

"There are many Annapurnas in the lives of men" Maurice Herzog
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Old 10-09-2019, 12:04 PM
Cheryl0331 Cheryl0331 is offline
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Default Oh for sure!

The clerk helping me was kind of pushy.
I had to keep telling him how the address needed to read for Spain too.
I guess his is goal was to sell UPS not give the customer the best deal.
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54 yr old female 5'7" 147 lbs. non-smoker conservative treatments failed
2007 fusion @ C4-6 peek cages, failed due to long term use of cox-2 inhibitor
2008 revised C4-6 donor bone, plate & screws
2009 fusion with Roi-C @ C3-4
2015 MRI & CT mjr ddd @ C6-7, segmental kyphosis at C7-T1, 2-level M6-C prosthesis by Dr. Clavel Barcelona Spain
2019 H.O. formed behind M6-C @ C6-7 left nerve rt & in spinal canal.
2020 Revision C6-7 to a CP-ESP prosthesis by Dr. Schmitz Dusseldorf Germany
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