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Hello all.
Glad to find this place but wish I wasn't here... Perfectly healthy, very active, never sick, never had a surgery... 48yo who felt like 30, even 20 on a good day. ![]() I went for a short run one day and ....nothing happened except I came home with intense pain and a numb arm. Arm isn't numb anymore at least. The verdict is C5/6 & C6/7 need surgery and some difference of opinion whether C4/5 is a goner too. My expensive useless insurance won't cover a thing, Germany is cheaper....and currently my situation is low pain as long as I do nothing. I went from 48 to 90 overnight and I am heartbroken. Runner16
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2015 - Left arm pain and numbness appeared out of nowhere during a short run. Assumed it was my new sports bra. 2016 - C5/6, C6/7; Disc extrusions, osteophytes, radiculopathy. Left side only. Clinging to the fantasy this will resolve spontaneously on its own. 2017 - Gave up on the dream. 2-level C5/6 & C6/7 Signus Rotaio ADR 15Nov17 |
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Hello all,
I am new and looking at 2 or 3 level cervical ADR's. I am very active and my goal would be to return to my activites. Running, backpacking, climbing, cycling.... Is this unrealistic? Has anyone been similarly successful? I have had 5 surgical consults, 4 say "yes" and 1 says "my odometer has run out" and I will never return to any of it (he also advocated partial or full fusion). One doc was a runner and seemed trustworthy but NONE of them have been able to "name" a patient who has gone back to similar sports. I would appreciate any feedback. Best, Runner
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2015 - Left arm pain and numbness appeared out of nowhere during a short run. Assumed it was my new sports bra. 2016 - C5/6, C6/7; Disc extrusions, osteophytes, radiculopathy. Left side only. Clinging to the fantasy this will resolve spontaneously on its own. 2017 - Gave up on the dream. 2-level C5/6 & C6/7 Signus Rotaio ADR 15Nov17 |
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After my C5/6 + 6/7 M6 ADR I resumed exercising within a few weeks--treadmill, elliptical (AKA cross trainer) and some fairly strenuous hiking. After about three months I went back to both yoga and Zumba--and I might have done that sooner but we were travelling during that time. That was three years ago and I'm still doing all those things without any problem, except that I'm now 64 and my knees are wearing out!
No doubt people have varied experience but for me the new discs were a miracle cure--the surgeon popped them in and I was good to go after a very brief recovery period. Best wishes to you.
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February 2013--winging scapula for no apparent reason; right arm weakness and limited ROM April 2013--Dubai neurosurgeon recommends surgery with fusion on C6-7 BUT does not know I have osteoporosis May 2013--successful C 5/6 and C 6/7 M-6 ADR with Mr. Dare, UK June 2013--pain free and ROM returning ![]() November 2013--giving thanks for the miraculous surgery I had 6 months ago |
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Hi Runner, I merged this with the one you started in Arthroplasty Central.
![]() Yes, most patients return to sports after ADR. The smart thing to do is to bump it down a notch -- and start slowly many months after surgery.
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"Harrison" - info (at) adrsupport.org Fell on my ***winter 2003, Canceled fusion April 6 2004 Reborn June 25th, 2004, L5-S1 ADR Charite in Boston Founder & moderator of ADRSupport - 2004 Founder Arthroplasty Patient Foundation a 501(c)(3) - 2006 Creator & producer, Why Am I Still Sick? - 2012 Donate www.arthropatient.org/about/donate |
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Hi, Stone here,
Cervical ADR patients vs. Lumbar ADR patients seem to recover faster and to better states from what Ive read here. When you go through the posts and you look at recovery be certain you check out whether it was cervical or lumbar. As always there's exceptions, recoveries, revisions. Age, health, duration of disc impediment also seem to play a part in recovery IMO. |
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![]() ![]() ![]() Truth is at least for now I can manage discomfort wise but I just can't imagine this as my "new normal". I have been told the following by spine surgeons, what do you think of this advice? - Cervical surgery is best done sooner than later. Best within 6 months, for sure within 2 yrs and if wait 5 yrs may not be eligible for ADR's. Best results are for patients with more arm pain than neck pain. Neck pain usually doesnt improve, have surgery before nerve damage. Surgery for me is inevitable. - Degeneration eventually stabilizes so if you can live with modified activites, the pain will get better. Surgery is risky and should be avoided at all costs because their is an inherent wild card with surgery and you may be worse off after surgery. Your odometer has "run out" and you should adjust your life style to avoid any physical stressors. No running, climbing, cycling etc. I am puzzled by the contrast in opinions. ![]() ![]() Best, Runner
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2015 - Left arm pain and numbness appeared out of nowhere during a short run. Assumed it was my new sports bra. 2016 - C5/6, C6/7; Disc extrusions, osteophytes, radiculopathy. Left side only. Clinging to the fantasy this will resolve spontaneously on its own. 2017 - Gave up on the dream. 2-level C5/6 & C6/7 Signus Rotaio ADR 15Nov17 |
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"- Degeneration eventually stabilizes so if you can live with modified activites, the pain will get better. Surgery is risky and should be avoided at all costs because their is an inherent wild card with surgery and you may be worse off after surgery. Your odometer has "run out" and you should adjust your life style to avoid any physical stressors. No running, climbing, cycling etc."
Canadian doctor? Because that what I was told, repeatedly! |
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Dec 1/15 - 3 level ADR from S1/L3 c/w 360 mobility preservation at L3/L4 for Spondylolisthesis done by Dr. Bertagnoli in Bogen GmbH. |
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Hey, Stone here again, don't mean to hijack your thread Runner16,
Fathub, Great news to hear from you. (Great that the news was great that is) In the last few months my GP suddenly retired. He was still using paper files and refused to computerize. Which, as a computer person for over 35 years I appreciated that hackers couldn't get my files. (yes, I know the term air gapped for medical systems, came up with that solution years ago for critical XP systems) Anyway, in my search for a new GP I've temporarily ended up with a 80 yo GP to renew meds and stuff. Seems that the new medical system in Canada is to have a walk in clinic doctor that will process you in 10 minutes. Their ability to assess "alternative" solutions is very limited (but it is free, until you have to pay out of pocket for alternative care!!!) |
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Hi Runner, Although I've not had my ADR surgery yet, I'm looking forward to returning to horseback riding (jumping) and competitive trap shooting after mine. My Doctor gave me a wait time of 6 months as an estimate, due to the nature of shooting and risk of injury from a fall from a horse, but he feels I'll be able to go back to both. As for the injury stabilizing, my discs were herniated when I was run over my a car in 2008. 8 1/2 years later, I'm finally getting definitive treatment. my discs have gotten progressively worse, as documented by MRI, but I still have some disc height left. This, and my determination to remain active, make me a good candidate for surgery. Don't get bogged down in artificial time lines- your symptoms and MRI will tell the story. A thought on insurance appeals, in case you're headed that direction. Try the National Guidelines Clearinghouse website for treatment guidelines for the cervical spine. Many of these now include ADR as an option for patients who have failed conservative treatment. Best of Luck! GC
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52 year old female, retired Fire Captain Whiplash injury in early 20's, years of wearing leather fire helmets, run down by a car 2008 Herniated Discs C5-6, C6-7 Thoracic outlet syndrome, cervical radiculopathy, cervical myelopathy Had 2 level ADR with Mobi-C at UC Davis Medical Center on 9/14/16. |
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