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Old 04-17-2017, 05:13 PM
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Hi, awesome forum and so glad to find it and meet everyone here. Very inspiring.

Last week I discovered I may need 3 level ADR and that its only really available in Europe. Quite a shock. Have spent the last week looking through this forum and the Internet in general trying to understand options. It appears Dr. Clavel in Spain may be a good choice (I speak Spanish). Its a little hard to tell, however, since he appears to solely use the M6 and other doctors in Germany seem to favor other devices. There is a strange kind of trash-talking that seems to go on between some of these doctors and their patients. I have sent initial emails to Clavel and several German doctors and only heard back from the US contacts for two German doctors. Any thoughts about how to navigate the competing claims and options these doctors are providing?

Pain is pretty significant. Haven't been able to do pushups since January. Now difficult to lift much with right arm. Here is a summary of what the latest MRI shows:

C3-C4: Grade 1 central annular disc bulge with mild uncinate process spurring noted on the right. No significant stenosis is produced. Minor foraminal encroachment.

C4-C5: Moderate degenerative disc change with broad-based grade 1-2 bulging disc and marginal osteophyte complex. Right greater than left uncinate process spurring. This produces mild to moderate right lateral recess and foraminal narrowing.

C5-C6: Moderate degenerative spondylosis with disc space narrowing and grade 1-2 bulging disc centrally, asymmetric far laterally on the left becoming grade 2, producing moderate to severe foraminal stenosis which is slightly increased from the previous study. Borderline central stenosis without cord impingement.

C6-C7: Broad-based grade 1 bulging disc centrally and minimally asymmetric to the left with left uncinate process spurring produces minimal left foraminal narrowing without additional significant stenosis or impingement.

C7-T1: Minor degenerative change without acquired stenosis or neural impingement.

IMPRESSION:
1. Degenerative spondylosis, multilevel, slightly progressive. There is moderate left foraminal stenosis present at C5-6 secondary to asymmetric grade 2 bulging disc and uncinate process spurring, moderate right lateral recess and foraminal narrowing on the right at C4-5 secondary to asymmetric bulging disc and uncinate process spurring.
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53 healthy and fit except for neck, shoulder and arm pain and weakness
2015: mountain bike accident and excessive landscape work on new cabin; pain begins
2016: MRI shows at least two bulging discs; physical therapy, jogging and rowing to manage pain
2017: increased pain and weakness following too much downhill skiing in two week period
New MRI shows bulging discs at c3-c4, c4-c5, c5-c6, c6-c7; surgeon indicates need 3 level fusion or ADR
June 2017 3 level adr with m6 Dr Clavel
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Old 04-18-2017, 09:55 PM
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Stan,

There are 10+ clinics in the US that do three level ADR. Their prices are comparable if not more competitive now with Euro clinics.

Pls see:

https://www.adrsupport.org/forums/sh...s+back+pricing
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Old 04-24-2017, 11:00 AM
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Thanks so much Harrison! I see the Texas Back Institute does it from the link you posted. Is there any listing of the other places in the US who do it?

Stan
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53 healthy and fit except for neck, shoulder and arm pain and weakness
2015: mountain bike accident and excessive landscape work on new cabin; pain begins
2016: MRI shows at least two bulging discs; physical therapy, jogging and rowing to manage pain
2017: increased pain and weakness following too much downhill skiing in two week period
New MRI shows bulging discs at c3-c4, c4-c5, c5-c6, c6-c7; surgeon indicates need 3 level fusion or ADR
June 2017 3 level adr with m6 Dr Clavel
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