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Old 04-18-2005, 06:14 PM
Kim Kim is offline
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For those of you who have had ADR in Europe what was the total cost in US dollars? I have been denied again by my ins and am launching an appeal but am looking at all options now. I sure dont have $53,000 to pay for the surgery here and dont know how we would swing it in Stenum or Ak either. If you would like to PM me feel free to do so or dont feel comfortable with that information in public.
I need a 2 level lumbar according to Dr. Blumenthal at TBI
Also I think from what i have seen the trip seems to be about 2 weeks in duration is that your experience? I have little kids at home and lots of dogs lol so this is a factor too.

I am so sick of this pain and it really stinks that our health care system is no better than it is. We have paid out the wazoo in insurance premiums and it infuriates me that the insurance company can dictate what type of care that I receive not my surgeon and myself deciding what is best for my body.
Thanks in advance for whatever help you can give me.
Kim
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Herniated disc L5/S1 2000 Discectomy 10/2003 Rhizotomy 8/2004 and 3/2005Discogram 11/04 grade 7 tear L5/S1
L4/L5 Grade 5 tear with herniation and stenosis
Evaluated by Dr Blumenthal at TBI
2/2005 ADR 2 level recommended
2 level lumbar fusion
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Old 04-19-2005, 05:58 AM
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Hi Kim,
if you look in the surgical outcomes here

http://adrsupport.org/private-cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ub...t_topic;f=1;t=000052

you will see actual amounts paid and the costs at the hotel also. The cost at the Alphaklinik is approximately $27,000 for a two-level ADR. You have got to add the cost of the airfare and your hotel, but I suspect it is still much cheaper than the USA.
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Alastair
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Old 04-19-2005, 09:00 AM
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Also the Alphaklinik will quote you a "Fixed Price" and they stick to it.
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Old 04-19-2005, 11:33 PM
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Alastair thanks for the info. I saw a lot of prices in Euros and my poor mind would not wrap around that to covert it. I also wondered what the hotel airfare etc was running so anthoer reason for me asking.
Thanks again
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Herniated disc L5/S1 2000 Discectomy 10/2003 Rhizotomy 8/2004 and 3/2005Discogram 11/04 grade 7 tear L5/S1
L4/L5 Grade 5 tear with herniation and stenosis
Evaluated by Dr Blumenthal at TBI
2/2005 ADR 2 level recommended
2 level lumbar fusion
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Old 04-20-2005, 06:42 AM
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Euro to USD Conversion

SURGEON: Dr. Rudolph Bertagnoli
( www.ogp.de and www.pro-spine.com )

SURGERY LOCATION/CLINIC: Vienna, Austria / Rudolfinerhaus ( www.rudolfinerhaus.at )

DEVICE(s), LEVEL(s): ProDisc (Spine Solutions), Levels L4-L6 (from surgeon's medical report)

COST = 23.498,32 euros (~$28,000)
AMOUNT BILLED: Same as above
INSURANCE ALLOWED: N/A
OUT OF POCKET:Same as above
TRAVEL: ~$1300 (airfare only including my wife)
EXPLANATIONS?
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