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I recently posted a reply to the new member who was at a loss how to proceed since a discogram seems to have relieved the pain from a ruptured disc. For some reason my reply (now deleted) went into a completely different thread and I can't seem to find the correct one. If you posted that query (or know which one it was) would you kindly supply a link or directions to this old fool? I'd like to try and post my reply in the right place, if I can manage it...
Thanks!
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03/09/26 - Ruptured L5-S1. Years of pain, discectomy, research into anatomy, hardware, clinical trials, facilities, surgeons, techniques, insurance. Attempts at ProDisc, Activ-L trials. Now, low bone density. D'oh!!! At 61 years, no longer qualifying for trials due to my age (chronological, not physical or mental). 2009 - Working on improving bone density or getting rich so I can go to Germany, where medicine and insurance have gone beyond the Stone Age. |
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I replied to this also, rather lengthy at that~ guess it's wherever it's supposed to be altho I have yet to check~
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"Stranger than science"!
Can't find it using the Search function.
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Severe, extensive DDD, considered inoperable by Dr. Regan, Lauressen, & some guy at UCLA. Severe foraminal stenosis (guess they can't operate!) and some spinal cord compression that Lauryssen would fix if gets outta hand. |
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I've searched through Mariaa's recent posts and can't find it that way. I think the original poster must have removed the thread altogether (I haven't tested this yet myself but understand from the instructions on the board FAQ's that it's possible to remove an entire thread if you're the originator or first poster of a topic). Either that or I'm just missing something... Anyway, if a response doesn't turn up on this thread in the next few days I'm going to see if that 'remove thread' capability works on this one. If you see it gone you'll know why. ;-)
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03/09/26 - Ruptured L5-S1. Years of pain, discectomy, research into anatomy, hardware, clinical trials, facilities, surgeons, techniques, insurance. Attempts at ProDisc, Activ-L trials. Now, low bone density. D'oh!!! At 61 years, no longer qualifying for trials due to my age (chronological, not physical or mental). 2009 - Working on improving bone density or getting rich so I can go to Germany, where medicine and insurance have gone beyond the Stone Age. |
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Oh, yeah; just for the heck of it, here's the response I posted (or tried to post) to that newbie's first topic. You can see it was someone new by my first word!
Welcome! A discogram is designed to determine if a particular disc is the cause of the pain a patient reports (narrowing down the pain to a specific disc rather than a general area of the back). A needle is inserted into the suspect disc and fluid is injected. If the correct disc is injected then patients respond with immediate pain exactly duplicating what they previously reported (and some do not). The result of the fluid injection is, many times, a re-inflation of the disc, which then results in the newly-injected fluid acting in a similar manner to the original core of the disc (nucleus pulposa). The original core acted as a shock absorber as well as preventing direct compression of the outer shell (annulus-which contains nerves which produce most of the pain in the back post-discectomy) between the endplates of the vertebrae. You are most likely experiencing a temporary loss of pain only because the annulus is re-inflated. Once the injected fluid leaks out again (and it will!) the annulus will flatten, the endplates of the adjacent vertebrae will continue to compress the annulus and you'll be back to the same pain (only you'll perceive it as greater because you've had a respite for a while) as before. Don't let this temporary respite fool you; you're *not* cured (sorry!) and you need to continue pursuing your original goal of ADR, fusion or whatever.
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03/09/26 - Ruptured L5-S1. Years of pain, discectomy, research into anatomy, hardware, clinical trials, facilities, surgeons, techniques, insurance. Attempts at ProDisc, Activ-L trials. Now, low bone density. D'oh!!! At 61 years, no longer qualifying for trials due to my age (chronological, not physical or mental). 2009 - Working on improving bone density or getting rich so I can go to Germany, where medicine and insurance have gone beyond the Stone Age. |
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Exactly. I felt better for at least 3 weeks after my first discogram, and was working and on my feet way back then so it was great. However, my usual pain returned with a resounding big bang or collapsing feeling I should say~ and things were back to normal. To date however, I haven't had more surgery as back then I was being advised to have a 3 level global fusion, and then in '03 and '04 a 2 level ADR.
Only you can tell when you feel that you are badly off enough to have surgery unless you are experiencing significant neurodeficits or other changes that would make surgery more immediately necessary and have been advised as such of this situation. Continue seeking seeking opinions however, so you will be prepared when making the surgical decision should it come to that. |
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It probably jumped into the FAQ's...HA!
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*10 plus years of back pain *'99 first MRI shows L4-5 bulge *'04 MRI shows L4-5 grade 3 annular tear & rupture with moderate DDD *'05 Discogram shows concordant pain at L4-5 *8/18/05 scheduled ADR surgery participant in Kineflex/Charite study |
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Patrick I promise you it didn't, because I live in the FAQs, and as a Yorkshireman keen on cricket I would've caught it had it dropped in on me. -- -- -- -- -- lol
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ADR Munich 26th July 2002 L5/S1. Aged 82 now Your best asset is your health My story is here http://www.adrsupport.org/alastair.html Thank goodness for Dr Zeegers I am painfree I am here to help,I live in the UK I now run the UK spine site and can be contacted at www.adrsupportuk.com/ |
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Very few things, in any, get deleted. Many moves are made to tidy up and keep the forums organized.
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"Harrison" - info (at) adrsupport.org Fell on my ***winter 2003, Canceled fusion April 6 2004 Reborn June 25th, 2004, L5-S1 ADR Charite in Boston Founder & moderator of ADRSupport - 2004 Founder Arthroplasty Patient Foundation a 501(c)(3) - 2006 Creator & producer, Why Am I Still Sick? - 2012 Donate www.arthropatient.org/about/donate |
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PS: After my discogram, I felt great for 10 days (other than the spinal headache!). The inflated disk relieved the lumbar pain for whatever reason...
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"Harrison" - info (at) adrsupport.org Fell on my ***winter 2003, Canceled fusion April 6 2004 Reborn June 25th, 2004, L5-S1 ADR Charite in Boston Founder & moderator of ADRSupport - 2004 Founder Arthroplasty Patient Foundation a 501(c)(3) - 2006 Creator & producer, Why Am I Still Sick? - 2012 Donate www.arthropatient.org/about/donate |
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