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Payment for ADR overseas
The few doctor's I've talked to overseas all expect a deposit to hold a surgery date (which is fine), but then they expect the balance due before you arrive for the surgery. This is a scary proposition for me when we're talking about $40k+ in surgery fees. Is there a way around this, maybe an escrow account, so I can meet the doctor in person before I'm relieved of such a large sum?
What happens if the surgery changes after some tests are run? If the surgery costs increase can I opt out and get my money back? If after testing I'm not a good ADR candidate (for some reason) and they recommend a straight fusion can I refuse and get that done back in the States under insurance, while still getting a refund from the overseas docs? The prospect of losing such a large amount of money worries me more than the actual surgery does. Has anyone had issues with any of this?
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L5/S1 - Discectomy 2009 L4/L5 - DDD L3/L4 - DDD L5/S1 - 2017 being told I need a fusion |
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ADR Payment
I was scared to death to complete the wire transfer to Dr. Clavel. However, several members eased my fear. It all worked out fine and I found out when I got there, that if I became ill prior to surgery or something changed, I would be refunded whatever testing/procedures had not been performed. One thing that also helped ease me was having all of my pre-op completed in the states. I was able to send all the results to Dr. Clavel's office. This will also give you a discount, as insurance covers pre-op in the states and then it is not on your bill. I was able to have my EKG, DEXA, CT, X-Rays and all blood tests completed prior to leaving. I also brought all of my previous anesthesia records - this was extremely helpful for their anesthesiologists, especially since I have several medication allergies.
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Thank you for the info.
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L5/S1 - Discectomy 2009 L4/L5 - DDD L3/L4 - DDD L5/S1 - 2017 being told I need a fusion |
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That's how it works I would expect some people to complain if they got ripped off n I haven't seen any.
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12/22/04 blew L4-5 and L5-S1 out lifting wrong 4/1/05 back to work thanks to Oxy 11/11/13 hurt back lifting again 6/6/15 last of many MRI L4-5 medium paracentral bulge with juice leaking and mid to left bulge on L5-S1 No invasive procedures except steroid shots that did nothing n hurt wicked bad 9/24/2016 Adr surgery Bertagnoli>1 year doing great |
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No worries with Dr. Clavel
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2012 - microdiscetomy L5/S1 2014 - Laminotomy/lumbar discectomy L4/L5 2016 - Both levels reherniated/ Fusion recommended by local surgeons in NYC, NY including Dr Fabien Bitan April 2017 L5 /S1 and L4 L5 2 level M6-L ADR. Dr Clavel, Spain |
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I also found this part a bit intimidating. However, after cross-checking phone numbers, e-mails and websites, I was confident that the bank account that I am transferring to is correct and belongs to a well-established and trustworthy company. I also made sure that the sum is correct and would not be subject to change.
I wish there was a more official system with invoicing and such. However, it appears that the international surgery business is a bit in the grey zone, so one just has to trust that all goes well...
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2015 Lost ability to sit 2016 Gradually worsening despite conservative treatment 2016 L4-L5, L5-S1 activ L success! |
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Third party verify
I verified Dr. Clavel with a third party before my transfer. It was the scariest thing not to know.
They were ISO 9001 compliant. I also checked with Blue Cross Blue Shield Worldwide, find a doctor. Dr. Clavel was listed as an approved surgeon.
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54 yr old female 5'7" 147 lbs. non-smoker conservative treatments failed 2007 fusion @ C4-6 peek cages, failed due to long term use of cox-2 inhibitor 2008 revised C4-6 donor bone, plate & screws 2009 fusion with Roi-C @ C3-4 2015 MRI & CT mjr ddd @ C6-7, segmental kyphosis at C7-T1, 2-level M6-C prosthesis by Dr. Clavel Barcelona Spain 2019 H.O. formed behind M6-C @ C6-7 left nerve rt & in spinal canal. 2020 Revision C6-7 to a CP-ESP prosthesis by Dr. Schmitz Dusseldorf Germany |
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