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Old 04-04-2005, 09:13 AM
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I have a hiatal hernia, so, regular doses of NSAID's are a real no-no. Have you tried the natural anti-inflam's like bromelaine and yucca? They're usually added to the liquid glucosamine formulas. I doubt that they'll take the place of high doses of ibuprofen or naproxen, but, they may allow you to reduce the dosages. After being diagnosed with the hiatal hernia, I've started looking for alternatives to taking NSAID's, most of them more holistic in nature (accupuncture, prolo, rolfing, etc.) Of course, I've got a well-placed ADR and no radiographically detectable facet damage, so, these "weaker measures" might be more effective than for someone who still needs disc replacement. Might be worth a try, though.
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Old 04-04-2005, 11:28 AM
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ans, If you read the FDA news release and the NIH report on the NISID's you will learn that the concern with Cox II's and cardiac disease is not just limited to the Cox II group. Naprosyn caused similar problems in the study. The study was on NISIDs reducing colon polyps (sp?). They also found that Celebrex causing problems is dose related. For instance, 200 mgs a day of celebrex causes no increase. 400 mgs given one per day causes an increase of a few percent, although 400mgs given 200 in the am 200 in the pm has no increase in heart disease. Also, the fact that Naprosyn has similar effects as Viox is disturbing. As it is a Cox I and no other Cox I's have been tested. The Cox I is a prostaglandin inhibitor it reduces inflammation but also reduces the mucosal lining in the stomach. The Cox II receptors do not target the same receptor site thus leaving the stomach lining alone. When you talk about pain meds don�t confuse opiate-based (narcotic) painkillers with NISIDS, as masking pain. NISIDS of course work on the body in reducing prostaglandins thus swelling and don�t have the Central Nervous System effects of narcotic pain meds. You can also try an herbal Cox II mix called Zyflamed and Omega III fish oil. The two of them can be very effective for some people.

Everyone's bodies react somewhat differently to meds. So it my take some time and detective work to find the right combination. Take care, Dano.
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Old 04-04-2005, 11:29 AM
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Thanks Annapurna for the tips. I have GERD so this help's appreciated. Btw, did prolotherapy help you? - ans

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Edit: Dano, you must'a posted after I wrote. Thanks for your answers and I appreciate your time. Btw, and I'm a skeptic, since taking fish oil I've noticed a pronounced diminuition of pain (or serendipity!). Take care, ans
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